Bryan Horsnell's collection

[se20blue]

One of the first collectors I meet,a gentleman.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-berkshire-58423343
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[littlewiggy]

Wow, lovely items, I wonder what else Mr Horsnell has?

I notice that Graham Budd was impressed & complimentary about all the caps being intact. Be pretty ironic now if he splits them into lots.
lol

[Maidonian]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-berkshire-58488577

[NWM Football]

I don't know WHAT the F.A. were thinking when they ditched the beautiful design of F.A. Cup winner's medals which had roughly been the same style since the 1890's in favour of these pieces of tat on ribbons for this year's final.

F'kn clueless !!!
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[nutfield priory]

Totally agree with your comments NWM Football, the last of the proper medals to loose its status of being given in a presentation case, now following FIFA and UEFA lead with dangles

Nowdays they are all presented with a 'tat' medal on a sponsors ribbon, waste of time as all the losers take them off straight after being given their
tat.

[Flaming Pie]

Nutfield,,totally agree. The original FA Cup medal was a beauty. Here’s the Warney Cresswell winners medal from the 1933 Everton v Man City final. I showed it to the grandkids recently. They seemed impressed, l think! . Not certain if kids are into the history of the game . Didn’t bother telling them it’s a copy Someone is actually selling an original losers medal from the 1933 final on eBay at the moment. It’s in the thousands if anyone fancies it. Can’t remember if it states who was the recipient . If it was Swift or Busby,, that would bump up the value.

[manchesterunitedman1]

Here is one of my favorite items and it has nothing to do with Manchester United playing!


https://flic.kr/p/yPmscB
https://flic.kr/p/yQ8c7x

I also think how this must have been held tight in the hand so as not to lose it in the Mud, with the fitted case making everything look fantastic!
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[manchesterunitedman1]

Flaming Pie wrote:

Nutfield,,totally agree. The original FA Cup medal was a beauty. Here’s the Warney Cresswell winners medal from the 1933 Everton v Man City final. I showed it to the grandkids recently. They seemed impressed, l think! . Not certain if kids are into the history of the game . Didn’t bother telling them it’s a copy Someone is actually selling an original losers medal from the 1933 final on eBay at the moment. It’s in the thousands if anyone fancies it. Can’t remember if it states who was the recipient . If it was Swift or Busby,, that would bump up the value.

I can assure you it is not Matt Busby's as that is still with his Family, but whoever this particular medal once belonged too it is not worth imo half of what the seller is asking, it is a coin seller and he thinks he has struck Gold
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[Flaming Pie]

Leslie, it’s a bit pricey, Buy lt Now for just under £5,000. I wonder why the player who received it never had his name inscribed on it? On the Manchester theme, in my box of bits , l’ve got a small silver bowl relating to the first Manchester team to play in the FA Cup. Manchester FC are the club in question . I think they travelled to Scotland to take on Queens Park in an early FA Cup fixture. They later became a rugby union outfit . 1889 is the date on it. It was awarded to the winner of a veterans race.

[cribsie]

Like myself Bryan is from Reading and I've known him for over 30 years, so I'm chuffed that he did so well.

[NWM Football]

The item that caught my eye was the Tottenham 1987 F.A. Cup Final shirt. It was an 'unsponsored' No. 16, and went for £1100 + bp.

Made me think a) what would it have sold for had it been a matchworn example rather than one from the spares. [For the unaware, the real story behind those shirts is that in the run-up to the Final that F.A. were receiving calls from, shall we say, less liberal countries who said they may not transmit the game if a team turned out with alcoholic branding. A new set of plain shirts had been earmarked for use by the youth team in a summer tournament, so they were pulled and sent to have 'F.A. Cup Final 1987' embroidered in case they were needed. The F.A. gave Spurs the nod just ahead of the final that Holsten shirts would be OK - but the two sets of shirts got mixed up before being taken to Wembley, hence the cock up in the match itself] and b) what would it have sold for has Spurs won the match rather than lost it.
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[littlewiggy]

[quote="NWM Football"]I don't know WHAT the F.A. were thinking when they ditched the beautiful design of F.A. Cup winner's medals which had roughly been the same style since the 1890's in favour of these pieces of tat on ribbons for this year's final.

F'kn clueless !!![/quote]


Everything about modern footy is rubbish.

The tacky kits, the screaming players following a light shoulder tap, the plastic, sterile stadiums, the semis at Wembley, the extortionate prices & ticket-purchase blackmail, the idiot pundits, oil clubs buying trophies, the international breaks, vulture agents, ruddy VAR, goal music ... oh dear, I could go on & on.

Created by the poor, stolen by the rich, indeed.

I'd happily sack it off completely were I not so darned addicted.

[Grumpypants]

Continuing from Littlewiggy..the corporate boxes attended by people who don't want to be there, the outplayers wearing of gloves, the bright hi-vis colour of the players boots, deliberate falling down in the penalty area, falling down to get players booked, tattoo's, loud celebration on the stadium speaker system when a goal is scored, ridiculous flames and streamers when a team has won a trophy. programmes the size of Argos catalogues......I am definetely renaming myself Victor Meldew, perhaps that's why I am known as Grumpypants!!!!!!

[littlewiggy]

Well said Grumpy.

Bringing back proper floodlight pylons, footballs with laces in them, the "ABC" half-time scoreboard, terraces with lakes of piss, pay-on-the-day turnstiles, British Rail specials, excessive sideburns for star players, home-painted wooden rattles, pools coupons, little blue disabled cars parked behind the goal, dubbin, the Football Argus, steaming hot Oxo and Smith's Crisps would be a good start.

[Grumpypants]

Also not forgetting real grass with real mud, especially in the winter

[Grumpypants]

Finishing a days work 'down pit', to go and play football for bag full of carrots.

[Flaming Pie]

The old bloke on the turnstile telling you to lift your kid over , even though your kid was in his early twenties and was too bloody heavy to lift over the metal turnstile

[Pete’s Picture Palace]

Or a fat referee with a personality



Incidentally, you can still get an atmosphere at a rickety old ground in the Premier League. Selhurst Park was exploding yesterday!

[littlewiggy]

Flaming Pie wrote:

The old bloke on the turnstile telling you to lift your kid over , even though your kid was in his early twenties and was too bloody heavy to lift over the metal turnstile

Haha, as you'll well know, Pie, on the Kop in the 80s you'd always have a line of local kids loitering next to the turnstile, each one "ducking in" with every paying (slim) adult ... and the turnstile operator going all Ray Charles & not seeing a damn thing, bless him.

Of course, local kids & the great atmosphere they created are generally not welcome these days. Well, not unless they're carrying a Gold Am-Ex card.

[littlewiggy]

Pete’s Picture Palace wrote:

Or a fat referee with a personality

We still have Jon Moss for that, Pete ... whoops, I see you said "with a personality" ... yeah, you're right, we have none.