Full FA Cup Final Programme Collection obtained

[Flatcap]

Ann Orack wrote:

Nice story. Did you manage to get to Wembley (twice) ?

....Hi Ann...Yes we got to the Final and the replay...Was cosseted by the BBC and also appeared on Mastermind the year after...The cap remains !

[hibernian]

BAZZABAGGIES wrote:

Who asked you to butt in ? Im asking a question as well so get off your high horse. Ive got a lot of records I want valuing and I will Pm the gentleman.

I can butt in if i want to, it is not your personal domain.
Try telling anyone your original reply was not loaded with sarcasm, and now your trying to backtrack. As the guy stated he is happy to give you a value FOR FREE on your record collection. You basically slagged the guy because he is trying to get a rough value on a collection FOR FREE. God forbid.
Any showaddywaddy or Nolans in your collection?

[sharrowblade]

Ann Orack wrote:

Thats what makes life so great. We've all got our own opinions and it makes for heathy discussions Some months ago I suggested on this site that we establish a programme valuation guide and by pooling our collective knowledge it could become the definitive knowledge base. That idea fell on deaf ears. Its still something I'd recommend. but having said that the value of an item can only be what it last sold for. Or so it seems for Sheff Wednesday items where the prices are falling almost as fast as the quality of football produced by the team

Good idea Chris, but I think you'd have more chance of standing in Barker's Pool and trying to p**s on the statue of Eros on the Town Hall, my friend.

This hobby can be so secretive.

Lets face it, Dealers don't want collectors to have the knowledge, and even collectors don't want other collectors to have the knowledge.

[Kickoff3pm]

sharrowblade wrote:

Good idea Chris, but I think you'd have more chance of standing in Barker's Pool and trying to p**s on the statue of Eros on the Town Hall, my friend. This hobby can be so secretive. Lets face it, Dealers don't want collectors to have the knowledge, and even collectors don't want other collectors to have the knowledge.

It is a good idea but not workable, I can also see what sharrow is saying but collectors need dealers as much as dealers need collectors. Both need an healthy market is to the benifit of all of us. Not all collectors have time to sit on ebay and wait for their items to come up. And not all want to join in that kind scrabble any way.

If we were not prepared to take on peoples leftovers to try and turn some into profit most your rare items would end up in the bin. Please don't judge all of us by the few who are just chancing their arm.

[Ann Orack]

Well I'm off to All Bar One for my 8 pints of Peroni. you've set me a challenge. Just keep an eye out on Look North for me getting arrested!

[Wullie]

Personally i would spilt the collection in two, pre war , post war. From 1946 onwards i would try and get rid of in one go. No exactly dross , but not worth the time and hassle to sell individually. That would leave 17 pre war programmes. These i would sell one every two months , which will give the old fella an income of between 1500 and 300 every 8 weeks for almost 3 years. I would sell the 1923 first then the 1939 , then 1924 , then 1938 and so one. This would spread the income and also you would not be flooding the market, a practise that will always lower prices. My guess is, if you were to sell all in one go, you will be lucky the get half the price of what any programme is really worth.

[holtie96]

A superb piece of advice

[giorgio]

Just came across this post. Have read through the lot and am somewhat dissapointed and shocked that, after two pages, no one has offered an estimate on what these programmes are worth. Shame on you all. I am not an expert but without spending anytime working it all out, this set has got to be between 10 and 20 thousand pounds if not more. This post started in March so the programmes may have already sold but another point to bear in mind is if you listed the whole lot as one on ebay, you would only pay 10% on the first £400 in commission. That was the situation last time I looked so you would only pay £40 total in commission plus a few pennies for the listing (free if you list on a free listing day).
I would be interested in 1927 and 1936 if you still have them. Good luck.

[1980Cossie]

giorgio wrote:

Just came across this post. Have read through the lot and am somewhat dissapointed and shocked that, after two pages, no one has offered an estimate on what these programmes are worth. Shame on you all. I am not an expert but without spending anytime working it all out, this set has got to be between 10 and 20 thousand pounds if not more. This post started in March so the programmes may have already sold but another point to bear in mind is if you listed the whole lot as one on ebay, you would only pay 10% on the first £400 in commission. That was the situation last time I looked so you would only pay £40 total in commission plus a few pennies for the listing (free if you list on a free listing day). I would be interested in 1927 and 1936 if you still have them. Good luck.

No but i went one better if you read and informed the seller that he needs a specialist to value his items who will give him an honest up to date valuation. By the way i don't see you making an offer for the 1927 or 1936 as per above which makes you just as bad as the ''shame on you all lot''

[giorgio]

1980Cossie wrote:

giorgio wrote: Just came across this post. Have read through the lot and am somewhat dissapointed and shocked that, after two pages, no one has offered an estimate on what these programmes are worth. Shame on you all. I am not an expert but without spending anytime working it all out, this set has got to be between 10 and 20 thousand pounds if not more. This post started in March so the programmes may have already sold but another point to bear in mind is if you listed the whole lot as one on ebay, you would only pay 10% on the first £400 in commission. That was the situation last time I looked so you would only pay £40 total in commission plus a few pennies for the listing (free if you list on a free listing day). I would be interested in 1927 and 1936 if you still have them. Good luck. No but i went one better if you read and informed the seller that he needs a specialist to value his items who will give him an honest up to date valuation. By the way i don't see you making an offer for the 1927 or 1936 as per above which makes you just as bad as the ''shame on you all lot''

Very funny. As post was listed in March I figured programmes had been sold by now. If you want me to offer a price - depending on condition, I would offer around 1200 for 1927 maybe more and around 400 for 1936 so up yours. Not that it's any good as they've probably gone as I stated. And anyway, the guy was asking for an estimate, not for people to make him an offer on individual programmes.

[Flatcap]

Hello...Yes the complete set is still available...I seemed to have opened a can of worms by posting this as I have received on the one hand some excellent advice as to how to progress and on the other hand been in receipt of offers of £600 for the lot !...The real collectors have given without prejudice advice that I have taken on board as I was hoping to get the best price possible for the guy who has gone into a nursing home...But then I have had folk who are stating that they are obviously copies,will be in bad condition and are worth nothing at all near what I have been led to expect...So to those who have taken time to answer I sincerely thank you on behalf of myself and Eric but to the 10 or so who are really looking to rip him off, I thought that you may have been better than that

[tommy]

The undeniable strength of this forum is the unique ability to discuss football programme collecting in an open and frank manner. This may upset some with or without a vested interest in our hobby. Times are changing for the better.

[sharrowblade]

giorgio wrote:

Just came across this post. Have read through the lot and am somewhat dissapointed and shocked that, after two pages, no one has offered an estimate on what these programmes are worth. Shame on you all.

A bit strong isn't it?

I feel no shame, I'm just a simpleton, with little knowledge of Cup Finals and what they are worth.

Those who do know, are perhaps a little wary, of stating their valuations, (no doubt there are some people out there who are hoping to get something on the cheap in a private deal), but there are others who don't wish to for fear of being 'shot at', for want of a better phrase. I fear you're maybe a bit on the low side for 1927. (Look, even I'm at it!)

Some members have offered their advice on how to dispose of the collection (re: auction houses, splitting the collection etc).
You can't go too far wrong with Wullie's advice.

Flatcap, In addition, to Wullie's advice, Before trundling off to an auction house, I'd do the research personally, find out what each cup final has reached at auction in the last few years, it's not too difficult to harvest the information, (google it, then check the archives) knock a bit off for sellers fees and possibly a drop in market values and 'bob's your uncle'. That should give you a rough idea,what they might fetch.

There's no harm in going to the auction houses with that hidden knowledge, acting dumb, to see what may or may not transpire.

P.S Giorgio, well done on the quest for the 92,.
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[Auchinleckian]

I think people are generally reluctant nowadays to offer advice on here on such collections. Without doubting for one moment that the original poster is genuine there have been numerous, similar, postings about "nice collections" that have turned up by chance and if anybody wants something to get in touch...hey presto, nothing!
I also think that there's perhaps one or two people out there with an inherent dislike of this site (and I can't begin to understand why) who might think it very funny to post something scurrilous on here and then to watch the inevitable scramble from members for items that they want. They're probably folk with a personality complex, never had a girlfriend, and the type of people you always hope won't sit next to you on a bus or a train....and give anoraks a bad name.
Just my thoughts. Anyone else?

[tommy]

Auchinleckian wrote:

They're probably folk with a personality complex, never had a girlfriend, and the type of people you always hope won't sit next to you on a bus or a train....and give anoraks a bad name. Just my thoughts. Anyone else?

That reminds me don't forget The Premier Programme Fair at The Royal National Hotel, London is coming up on Sat 4th June 11am-4pm.

[Flatcap]

Whilst I will agree with Auchinleckian that these folk may exist..I am not celver enough to spin a yarn or lead such a wild goose chase...I am more than willing for anyone at anytime to view the collection as I am in earnest...I am not a professional nor do I have any axes to grind..I was merely seeking advice and it is to this forums great credit that the majority of the answers I have received have been so helpful...If it is to be perceived that my collection does not exist I will no longer waste peoples precious time and apologise if I have led anybody up the proverbial garden path...For those who have called and seen the collection,I thankyou for your interest and comments but I will not continue this thread so as not to dissapoint anyone in the future.

[Wullie]

giorgio wrote:

Just came across this post. Have read through the lot and am somewhat dissapointed and shocked that, after two pages, no one has offered an estimate on what these programmes are worth. Shame on you all. I am not an expert but without spending anytime working it all out, this set has got to be between 10 and 20 thousand pounds if not more. This post started in March so the programmes may have already sold but another point to bear in mind is if you listed the whole lot as one on ebay, you would only pay 10% on the first £400 in commission. That was the situation last time I looked so you would only pay £40 total in commission plus a few pennies for the listing (free if you list on a free listing day). I would be interested in 1927 and 1936 if you still have them. Good luck.

OK I'LL GIVE YOU AN ESTIMATE.....£22,487 AND 37 PENCE.

TOMORROWS LOTTO NUMBERS ARE 2 13 15 37 39 42


AND IF YOU ARE GOING TO BLACKPOOL BANK HOLIDAY MONDAY....FORGET IT....IT'S GOING TO PISS DOWN

[tommy]

Wullie wrote:

OK I'LL GIVE YOU AN ESTIMATE.....£22,487 AND 37 PENCE. TOMORROWS LOTTO NUMBERS ARE 2 13 15 37 39 42 AND IF YOU ARE GOING TO BLACKPOOL BANK HOLIDAY MONDAY....FORGET IT....IT'S GOING TO PISS DOWN

Nostradamus

[PABLO76]

There are some real bitches on here isnt there? I honestly cant think for the life of me why this hobby attracts so many snidey people. If you've got nothing constructive to say, why dont you piss off?

Also, as a note to the powers that run this site, I think a 3 srikes and you're out rule should apply to some people round here, just an observation.

I think its blatantly obvious on here who arethe buyers, who are the sellers and the rest are blaggers out for aquick buck or to rip someone off.

[thewednesday]

Wullie wrote:

TOMORROWS LOTTO NUMBERS ARE 2 13 15 37 39 42

I might have a punt on those numbers!