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MansfieldTerrier



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 04, 2015 1:50 pm 
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If I were you I'd contact the club direct, John.
There HAS to be some kind of statistician connected to the club and they should put you in touch with him/her.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 04, 2015 2:41 pm 
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Thanks for the replies to date, I am currently awaiting a reply from the Croydon Advertiser, but have noticed that the Lazio game was during the season so wonder if a subsequent League game may have carried the info. I have a typed team sheet for Lazio game which I acquired some time after the game but I feel it may not be official. As there was a programme for the Verona game, wouldnt there have been one for the Lazio game
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I'd guess that there should have been a separate programme for the game, John. As a matter of interest, I have the Palace ve Huddersfield programme for the March 1971 game and they were already looking ahead to the fixtures. As well as printing the current Italian League table they printed details of away travel: check out the prices!!

Also worth noting that in this programme they printed details of recent games, including Div 1, Football Combination, etc. and they printed the FULL TEAMS and goalscorers, etc. If they did this at the start of the 1971-72 season they may well have included the teams from the A-I at the back end of the previous season. Might be worth checking out programmes at the start of 1971-72 on eBay; no harm in asking sellers - I've done it myself before! Wink
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And, while I'm here, I might as well publish the covers of the two Huddersfield 'home' games.

You can see how they employed the 'official' A-I logo.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 04, 2015 3:58 pm 
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It is amazing how old threads spring to life. This one was started in 2011, went to sleep and has now been resurrected.

I wonder how the original poster got on with his research?
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martino wrote:
It is amazing how old threads spring to life. This one was started in 2011, went to sleep and has now been resurrected.


Most people probably wouldn't bother to search for an earlier thread and would just start a new one.

Every credit to John for picking up the earlier thread as it is much easier for reference purposes when information on a specific subject is in the one place.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 04, 2015 4:31 pm 
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And to add something else to the thread here is the programme from the 1971 final when Blackpool defeated Bologna.

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Wow! Not seen that before.
Looks exactly the same as my Town one.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 04, 2015 8:47 pm 
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Hi though I am not a Crystal Palace fan, in the early 1970's I saw several matches at Selhurst, including 3 of the 4 Anglo Italian matches.

I have my programme for the 1971 games v Cagliari and Inter, and have been able to get the results since then, but does anyone know where I can Find a match report for both games WHICH MUST INCLUDE FULL LINE-UPS, SUBS, SUBS USED AND WHO FOR.

I also attended the 1973 Lazio game, but not the Verona game,I used to have the Verona programme, but not the Lazio one, for which a full report is also required.

thank you


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In 77-78 Rovers played 3 games.

30th July Plymouth Argyle Home.
6th Aug Bristol C**y Away
9th Aug Birmingham City

See them here. http://bristolroversmemorabilia.weebly.com/1977-1978-5658.html

In 78-79 Rovers played 3 games.

1st Aug Cardiff City Home.
5th Aug Bristol C**y Away
8th Aug Fulham Away

See them here. http://bristolroversmemorabilia.weebly.com/1978-1979-5860.html
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As badhand pointed out to me (in a PM) the above was our Anglo-Scottish games. In the Anglo-Italian we only played Southend home and West Ham away in 92/93.

What a prat I am.
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As badhand pointed out to me (in a PM) the above was our Anglo-Scottish games. In the Anglo-Italian we only played Southend home and West Ham away in 92/93.

What a prat I am.


Except... You wouldn't have played ANY English clubs in the Anglo-Italian Tournament; it was designed to facilitate English v Italian clubs only.
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And, just to kick this thread back to life once more, I have recently purchased this from eBay.



I thought that it was the Italian version of the common English guidebook to the tournament, but it turns out to be a Cagliari-centric booklet of just eight pages which features a textual history of the club, then photos of the stadium, players and then a calendar for all of the fixtures of the 1971 tournament for all of the twelve teams involved.

I'd hazard a guess and say that no-one else in here has one of these.
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MansfieldTerrier wrote:
Except... You wouldn't have played ANY English clubs in the Anglo-Italian Tournament; it was designed to facilitate English v Italian clubs only.


I think Jamie was referring to the AIC qualifying stages for the 92/93 season



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My sincere apologies.
I wasn't aware that they had changed the format so drastically 20+ years further on.
Clearly time and tide waits for no man!
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Swindon played Oxford United away in the group stage as well as Brentford at home (in the 92-93 season)

I've got the group programme for the 71 tournament for Swindon.

I've also got the home programmes from the 69-70 season, and also for the final away at Napoli. This is probably an urban myth, but i'm sure i heard that the programe for the final was the first programme produced in Italy.

That seems strange but you never know, feel free to correct me on that.
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MansfieldTerrier wrote:
And, just to kick this thread back to life once more, I have recently purchased this from eBay.



I thought that it was the Italian version of the common English guidebook to the tournament, but it turns out to be a Cagliari-centric booklet of just eight pages which features a textual history of the club, then photos of the stadium, players and then a calendar for all of the fixtures of the 1971 tournament for all of the twelve teams involved.

I'd hazard a guess and say that no-one else in here has one of these.
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I have one that looks exactly like that, and I got it after being given the heads up by Ockleywood, on here, another Palace collector.

Was very hard to find, I only got mine by setting up a saved search on italian ebay


I don't recall mine having all the fixtures, but cannot look at mine to check right now as I'm away on holiday

It does have the four teams in the group listed though, which made me accept it as being the closest thing to a Cagliari issued programme for their games.

I seem to remember it had a lovely aerial view of their ground too, but don't recall mine being 12 pages, it was just a foldout of maybe 6.

Would love it n my collection what with Palace's participation in 'European competition being even rarer than this programme!!
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93/94, Palace were in the 2nd tier and played Charlton and Millwall, and missed out on the two games in Italy which Charlton qualified for.

1973 version of the competition, Palace got to the Semi Final and played Newcastle. Another failed attempt at glory by Palace!!
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Dorking wrote:
I don't recall mine having all the fixtures, but cannot look at mine to check right now as I'm away on holiday

It does have the four teams in the group listed though, which made me accept it as being the closest thing to a Cagliari issued programme for their games.

I seem to remember it had a lovely aerial view of their ground too, but don't recall mine being 12 pages, it was just a foldout of maybe 6.


Full contents...



Then a 1/2-sized fold-out attached to the inside front cover...


















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PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2018 6:37 pm 
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Hello again Mansfield Terrier.

Thanks for the scans

Back from hols, and checked mine, and it is exactly the same as yours - 8 pages, or 10 if you include the fold out bit on the first page. Lovely item, and as I said the closest anyone will get to a Cagliari v Palace (ie the game played in Italy) 'programme'.


I love my one, although sadly mine has writing on it - very neatly done, but still writing all the same Sad


I have also got the Inter Milan club magazine from then, which has an article, totally in Italian, which mentions the Anglo Italian Cup and the briefest of mentions of Crystal Palace.



Plus tickets for all Palace's games in the 1971 competition, home and away


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