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Jim LFC



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 3:17 pm 
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Watford played a French Professionals team on 4/4/1904.The exact location of the match in France is unknown.Watford won the game 9-1
infront of an estimated crowd of 3000.


Do you know if a programme was produced?! Smile


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PhilWBA wrote:
West Broms first overseas tour was in 1908/09 no idea if programmes were issued but these are the games that were played taken from albiontilwedie.co.uk so there may be some programmes older than the one listed -

SCANDINAVIAN TOUR

DATE OPPONENT F-A SCORERS GATE
Tue 18 May Newcastle United (1) 0-3 Shepherd 2, Wilson 5,000
Thu 20 May Hull City (2) 2-1 Buck, Timmins - * 4,000
Fri 21 May Gefle FC (3) 10-0 Garraty 6, Buck 2, Harris, Manners 6,500
Sun 23 May Stockholm Select XI (4) 8-3 Buck 4, Davies 2, Garraty, Harris - Gustafson, * 10,200
Mon 24 May Hull City (5) 3-4 Thompson, Buck, Timmins (pen) - * 5,500
Thu 27 May Swedish Select XI (5) 2-0 Garraty, Buck 15,000
Fri 28 May Danish Select XI (6) 1-3 Buck - S Nielsen 2, Olsen 12,000

This was Albion's first ever 'overseas' tour.
1 - Played at the B93 Stadium, Copenhagen, Denmark.
2 - Played at the Idrottsparken, Stockholm, Sweden.
3 - Played in Gavle, Sweden.
4 - Played at the Idrottsparken, Stockholm, Sweden.
5 - Played in Gothenburg, Sweden.
6 - Played in Copenhagen, Denmark. The match was abandoned on 80 minutes due to 'rough play'.


Anyone know if any of the above matches have a programme? ! Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 3:48 pm 
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Updated list includes

ORIENT
QPR
SHEFFIELD UNITED
SOUTHPORT

BOROUGH UNITED
SWANSEA CITY

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 10:09 pm 
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There was a Programme for Kamraterna v Linfield 23/9/59, this is the oldest one I'm aware of................


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Selsafc wrote:
There was a Programme for Kamraterna v Linfield 23/9/59, this is the oldest one I'm aware of................




Thanks for that, now updated! Thumbs Up

Also updates for the following

CRYSTAL PALACE
DULWICH HAMLET
NEWCASTLE UNITED
WATFORD

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 15, 2020 4:10 pm 
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surreyhornet wrote:
Watford played a French Professionals team on 4/4/1904.The exact location of the match in France is unknown.Watford won the game 9-1
infront of an estimated crowd of 3000.


The game was in Watford, not France. The visitors from Paris made a short tour to England and lost 11-0 to Southampton Reserves on 1 April, then played Watford.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2020 7:54 pm 
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More updates...

BOURNEMOUTH
CRYSTAL PALACE
LUTON TOWN
STOKE CITY
WIMBLEDON

MORTON

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2020 11:58 pm 
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No idea where you got the Otaga v Luton Town (1977) as the earliest foreign international for Luton but is definitely incorrect as that was the fourth game of an end of season tour.

The tour started in the US v St Louis Stars, followed by two games v NZ National XI in Auckland and Wellington, then Otago followed by Canterbury.
The tour concluded with two games against the New Caledonia National XI and one against the Fiji National XI.

Luton had several end of season tours to Ireland in the late 1940s and early 1950s but the first game I am aware of outside the British Isles was Barcelona v Luton Town, 26 January 1956. Knocked out of the FA Cup they were invited to a Spanish Liberation Festival game.

I am not sure this is the absolute first foreign international, my pre-war Luton history is a bit limited. Feel free to correct me if you know another earlier game.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 9:19 am 
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https://flic.kr/s/aHskgTgSDj

the above link will show a players itinerary for the Austro-Hungarian Tour of 1908 as well as a few other items but no programmes.

To my knowledge these are the only items that have ever surfaced, yet programmes have been unearthed when some British clubs travelled to that part of Europe at the turn of the 20th Century.


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Jim LFC



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 1:53 pm 
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An Essex Hatter wrote:
No idea where you got the Otaga v Luton Town (1977) as the earliest foreign international for Luton but is definitely incorrect as that was the fourth game of an end of season tour.
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This is the oldest game I can find where a programme was definitely issued.

It's highly likely that programmes exist for the other games you mention, if anyone can confirm I will amend the list.

As Leslie suggests, programmes are being unearthed all the time, so who knows what's round the corner? ! Smile

SWINDON TOWN
OLDHAM ATHLETIC
FORFAR ATHLETIC

both added to the list btw

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 11:34 pm 
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Programmes exist for the St Louis Stars and New Zealand National XI games (a combined programme for both games), plus Otago and Canterbury.

The earliest away International game programme for Luton I have is CCA Romania Wed May 23 1956.

There are others prior to 1977 with programmes:
May 1 1957 BSG Motor Zwickau Germany
May 12 1957 SSV/Hertha BSC Germany
May 9 1958 SSV/Hertha BSC Germany
May 3 1960 Bratislava Czech
? ? 1960 Jednota Koscise Czech (anyone have a spare of this one?)

I have found a game prior to the Barcelona one, 5 May 1955 Danish Combination XI (Idretsparken)
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 21, 2020 9:22 am 
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An Essex Hatter wrote:
Programmes exist for the St Louis Stars and New Zealand National XI games (a combined programme for both games), plus Otago and Canterbury.

The earliest away International game programme for Luton I have is CCA Romania Wed May 23 1956.

There are others prior to 1977 with programmes:
May 1 1957 BSG Motor Zwickau Germany
May 12 1957 SSV/Hertha BSC Germany
May 9 1958 SSV/Hertha BSC Germany
May 3 1960 Bratislava Czech
? ? 1960 Jednota Koscise Czech (anyone have a spare of this one?)

I have found a game prior to the Barcelona one, 5 May 1955 Danish Combination XI (Idretsparken)


Great stuff thanks for that! Thumbs Up

List accordingly updated also includes new entries for...

BOURNEMOUTH
OLDHAM ATHLETIC
QPR

ENFIELD

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2020 2:13 pm 
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More updates....

NOTTINGHAM FOREST
PORTSMOUTH
SHEFFIELD WEDNESDAY
WIGAN ATHLETIC

KILMARNOCK
THIRD LANARK

BALLYMENA
BANGOR CITY
BELFAST CELTIC
COLERAINE
CLIFTONVILLE
CRUSADERS
DERRY CITY
PORTADOWN
ULSTER UNITED


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2020 2:17 pm 
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Updated list now here!

Is YOUR team missing?!


Racing Club Paris v ARSENAL (December 1934)
Slavia Prague v WOOLWICH ARSENAL (May 1907)
Deutschland XI v ASTON VILLA (Berlin) (May 1938)
AIK Stockholm v BIRMINGHAM CITY (May 1946)
Netherlands Select v BOLTON (May 1953)
Sparta Combined XI v BLACKBURN ROVERS (May 1928)
FC Saarbruken v BLACKPOOL (May 1954)
Aukland V BOURNEMOUTH (June 1973)
Hamburg v BRENTFORD (May 1937)
San Diego Sockers v BRIGHTON (June 1979)
Aalborg v BRISTOL CITY (June 1946)
Wellington v BRISTOL ROVERS (May 1974)
Kamraterna v BURNLEY (May 1948)
CS Verveitois v BRADFORD CITY (May 1914)
IFK Eskilstuna v CAMBRIDGE UNITED (July 1992)
Michigan All Stars v CHARLTON (Detroit) (June 1937)
Blau Wit v CHELSEA (May 1936)
Atlanta Chiefs V COVENTRY CITY (May 1970)
MVV Maastricht v v CRYSTAL PALACE (July 1967)
West Ham v DERBY COUNTY (Amsterdam) (May 1925)
FC Zurich v EVERTON (May 1928)
Combined Services XI v FULHAM (Osnabruck)(June 1947)
Ystads IF v GRIMSBY TOWN (July 2001)
PSV v HUDDERSFIELD (May 1951)
Barcelona v HULL CITY (June 1951)
Hercules v IPSWICH TOWN (May 1931)
Ajax v LEEDS (May 1924)
Bondselftal v LEICESTER CITY (May 1952)
HM Forces (RAF and Army combined issue) v LIVERPOOL (July 1945)
Danish Combination XI v LUTON TOWN (May 1955)
Fiorentina v MAN CITY (May 1934)
BAOR Combined Services v MAN UTD (March 1946)
Sammenstatt Norsk Lag v MIDDLESBORO (May 1950)
Servette v MILLWALL (September 1988)
Frigg v NEWCASTLE UNITED (May 1946)
Combined Services v NOTTINGHAM FOREST (Hamburg) (November 1946)
Barcelona v NOTTS COUNTY (May 1914)
Dukla Prague v NORTHAMPTON TOWN (May 1965)
Sliema Wanderers v NORWICH CITY (May 1964)
Sexdraga/Aplareds IF V OLDHAM ATHLETIC (July 1991)
Floriana v ORIENT (May 1956)
SC Wiener Neustadt v OXFORD UNITED (July 2015)
St Louis Simpkins v PLYMOUTH ARGYLE (May 1954)
Combined Services XI v PORTSMOUTH (Hannover) (March 1946)
Kitsap FC v PORT VALE (July 2014)
Grasshoppers v PRESTON NORTH END (May 1946)
KR Reykjavik v QPR (June 1947)
Zwaluwen v READING (June 1935)
Ajax v ROTHERHAM UNITED (May 1948)
AGF v SHEFFIELD UNITED (Aarhus) (May 1936)
Young Fellows v SHEFFIELD WEDNESDAY (May 1929)
Hibernians (Malta) v SHREWSBURY TOWN (May 1985)
US Servannaise St Malo v SOUTHAMPTON (May 1934)
Racing Mechelen v SOUTHEND UNITED (May 1953)
Rostselmash Rostov v SOUTHPORT (October 1968)
Zwaluwen (Dutch XI) v STOKE CITY (April 1934)
Napoli v SWINDON TOWN (Anglo Italian Cup) (May 1970)
Besiktas v SUNDERLAND (May 1950)
Valetta United v TOTTENHAM (May 1929)
Valetta v WATFORD (June 1969)
Zenit v WEST BROMWICH ALBION (June 1957)
Sparta Prague v WEST HAM (May 1923)
Dynamo Brest v WIGAN ATHLETIC (July 1990)
IFK Moray v WIMBLEDON (July 1984)
Combined Services XI v WOLVES (September 1945)
FT Auda v YEOVIL (July 2002)


Barcelona v CROOK TOWN ((March 1922)
Trusten v ENFIELD (May1967)
Blau Wit v ISLINGTON CORINTHIANS (May 1936)
Atletico Bilbao v DULWICH HAMLET
Thisted Idraetsklub FC v LONDON CALEDONIANS (June 1935)
Dutch Select v LONDON COMBINATION (March 1961)
PSV v MOOR GREEN (Brussels) (March 1933)
Ferencvaros v OXFORD UNIVERSITY (March 1902)


Slavia Prague v ABERDEEN (May 1911)
Newfoundland All Stars v AYR UNITED (Canada) (July 1973)
Preussen v CELTIC (May 1922 )
Lowveld Select XI v CLYDE (Rhodesia) (June 1947)
Maccabi v DUNDEE (May 1951)
Dallas Tornado v DUNDEE UTD (June 1969)
Valencia v DUNFERMLINE (ICFC) (December 1962)
Horsens Forenede Sportsklubber HFS v EAST FIFE) (May 1973)
FC Vaduz v EAST FIFE (Europa League) (July 2009)
Guelph Oaks v FORFAR ATHLETIC (May 1980)
Southern Transvaal v HEARTS (May 1954)
Rapid Vienna V HIBERNIAN (May 1950)
Bayern Munich v KILMARNOCK (New York) (May 1960)
Vios-W v LIVINGSTON (July 2002)
Esbjerg v MORTON (June 1965)
Southern Transvaal MOTHERWELL (May 1934)
Combined Services XI v PARTICK THISTLE (Munster) (March 1946)
Skeid Oslo v QUEENS PARK (May 1949)
Grenland Select v RANGERS (May 1911)
Japan XI v STIRLING ALBION (June 1966)
Hamburg v ST JOHNSTONE (UEFA Cup) (September 1971)
Barcelona v ST MIRREN (May 1922)
Ukrainian Nationals v THIRD LANARK (Philadelphia) (May 1961)


IA Akranes v BANGOR CITY (UEFA Cup) (August 1994)
Dinamo Kiev v BARRY TOWN (Champions League) (July 1997)
Sliema Wanderers v BOROUGH UTD (ECWC) (September 1963)
Combined Services XI v CARDIFF CITY (Brunswick) (April 1946)
AIK Solna v CARMARTHEN TOWN (Intertoto Cup) (June 2001)
Mypa v CEFN DRUIDS (Europa League) (July 2012)
Slovan Bratislava v CWMBRAN TOWN (UEFA Cup) (August 2001)
Kongsvinger v EBBW VALE (Intertoto Cup) (June 1998)
FH v HAVERFORDWEST COUNTY (Europa League) (July 2004)
Ventspils v LLANELLI (CL) (July 2008)
FC Vaduz v LONGFORD TOWN (UEFA Cup) (July 2004)
Carl Zeiss Jena V NEWPORT COUNTY (ECWC) (March 1981)
Naestved v TON PENTRE (Intertoto Cup) (July 2005)
FC Levadia v TNS (CL) (July 2000)
Skonto v RHYL (Champions League) (July 2004)
Locomotive Leipzig V SWANSEA CITY (ECWC) (September 1981)
Zurich v WREXHAM (ECWC) (September 1972)

KSK Beveren v BALLYMENA (ECWC) (September 1978)
Sigma Olomouc v BANGOR CITY (UEFA Cup) (September 1991)
New York All Stars V BELFAST CELTIC (May 1949)
Dynamo Kiev V COLERAINE (ECWC) (September 1965)
Nantes v CLIFTONVILLE (ECWC) (October 1979)
Kamraterna Norrköping v CRUSADERS (ECWC) (October 1968)
Lyn Oslo v DERRY CITY (European Cup) (August 1965)
TPS Turku v DISTILLERY (Intertoto Cup) (June 2008)
Keflavik v v DUNGANNON SWIFTS (Intertoto Cup) (June 2006)
Americans v GLENAVON (New York) (May 1960)
Royal Antwerp v GLENTORAN (ICFC) (October 1965)
Kamraterna v LINFIELD (September 1959)
Duisburg v NEWRY TOWN (Intertoto Cup) (July1999)
Tauris Arimavska Soboto v OMAGH TOWN (Intertoto Cup) (June 1998)
Valur v PORTADOWN (UEFA Cup) (September 1974)
Liverpool v ULSTER UNITED (Toronto) (June 1948)


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2020 4:33 pm 
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Hi

There was a programme produced for Swindon's 3-0 away win at Napoli in the Anglo-Italian Cup final on 28 May 1970.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2020 8:32 pm 
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There was an official programme issued for the Philadelphia Select v LIVERPOOL game on 26th MAY 1946 played on the US tour.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2020 9:37 pm 
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stfc831968 wrote:
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There was a programme produced for Swindon's 3-0 away win at Napoli in the Anglo-Italian Cup final on 28 May 1970.


Cheers for that, now updated! Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2020 9:47 pm 
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1980Cossie wrote:
There was an official programme issued for the Philadelphia Select v LIVERPOOL game on 26th MAY 1946 played on the US tour.


You're dead right about this issue!

I've now amended MY mistake which should have been 1945 of course! Smile

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Viola19 wrote:
Leicester City toured Holland between 13 and 24 May 1952.
"Bondselftal" is the name I have listed. There was a brochure / programme printed to cover the tour.


Hi

Do you know the date of this issue?

I have found evidence of a OOST-NEDERLAND V LEICESTER CITY programme from 17/05/1952. Maybe this is older?

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You can amend Chelsea away to Blauw Wit in Holland 9/5/1936.
There were matches in May 1906 against a Danish X1 and Southampton in Denmark in 1906 but no programmes have ever surfaced.
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