Manchester north end 1935

[holtie96]

Don't tell the other half, I treated myself to a rare programme it is a single sheet issue for wigan v Manchester north end (the now defunct club). It isn't the normal wigan issue due to the holiday period.
Can anyone shed any light on this club as there is next to nothing on the Internet.
Did any of the lineup make it with other clubs?
Scan given, any advice appreciated.

[CelticViking]

Hi
I knew of this club as they had played The great South Liverpool in the FAC

I found this , dont know if you have seen this , l hope this helps

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Manchester North End F.C. was an association football club based in Manchester, England. The club was founded in 1922 as New Cross F.C. and joined the Lancashire Combination, before changing its name the following year. In the 1924–25 season, Manchester North End left the Lancashire Combination and entered the Cheshire County League, where they remained until 1939, when the club folded.

During the club's existence, Manchester North End participated in the FA Cup, England's foremost cup competition, on several occasions, reaching the fourth qualifying round twice.

FA Cup results
Season Round Opponents Date H/A Result
1923–24 Extra preliminary round Old Xaverians 8 September 1923 Away 2–0
Preliminary round Eccles United 22 September 1923 Home 1–1
26 September 1923 Away 2–1
First qualifying round Buxton 6 October 1923 Away 2–4
1924–25 Preliminary round Marine 20 September 1924 Home 6–0
First qualifying round Glossop 4 October 1924 Away 0–3
1925–26 Preliminary round Buxton 19 September 1925 Home 1–1
23 September 1925 Away 2–4
1926–27 Preliminary round Glossop 18 September 1926 Away 1–4
1927–28 Preliminary round Glossop 17 September 1927 Home 4–3
First qualifying round Bootle 1 October 1927 Home 3–0
Second qualifying round Hurst 15 October 1927 Home 2–2
19 October 1927 Away 1–2
1928–29 Preliminary round St Helens Town 15 September 1928 Away 0–0
19 September 1928 Home 1–0
First qualifying round Ellesmere Port Town 29 September 1928 Home 6–3
Second qualifying round Whiston Parish 13 October 1928 Home 3–1
Third qualifying round Hurst 27 October 1928 Home 4–1
Fourth qualifying round Rhyl Athletic 10 November 1928 Away 2–3
1929–30 Preliminary round Northern Nomads 21 September 1929 Home 4–4
25 September 1929 Away 4–3
First qualifying round Ellesmere Port Town 5 October 1929 Home 3–1
Second qualifying round Prescot Cables 19 October 1929 Away 2–5
1931–32 Preliminary round Peasley Cross Athletic 19 September 1931 Home 3–2
First qualifying round Prescot Cables 3 October 1929 Away 2–5
1932–33 Preliminary round Stalybridge Celtic 17 September 1932 Away 2–4
1933–34 Preliminary round Prescot Cables 16 September 1933 Away 1–1
20 September 1933 Home 3–0
First qualifying round Earle 30 September 1933 Home 9–1
Second qualifying round Stalybridge Celtic 14 October 1933 Away 4–3
Third qualifying round Marine 28 October 1933 Home 5–3
Fourth qualifying round Workington 11 November 1933 Home 3–3
15 November 1933 Away 3–6
1934–35 Preliminary round Glossop 15 September 1934 Away 1–3
1935–36 Preliminary round Northern Nomads 21 September 1935 Away 0–7
1936–37 Preliminary round Northern Nomads 19 September 1936 Home 4–0
First qualifying round Glossop 3 October 1936 Home 3–2
Second qualifying round South Liverpool 17 October 1936 Away 1–3
1937–38 Preliminary round Buxton 18 September 1937 Home 3–1
First qualifying round Marine 2 October 1937 Home 2–2
6 October 1937 Away 3–0
Second qualifying round South Liverpool 16 October 1937 Away 2–2
20 October 1937 Home 0–1

References

Manchester North End history at the Football Club History Database
The FA Cup results archive at TheFA.com[dead link]

[holtie96]

Many thanks for the reply that was all I could see on the net!
Hopefully treble or Leslie can shed some light????

[MaccProgrammesWanted]

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[MaccProgrammesWanted]

Brief details of all their appearances vs Macclesfield from 1924-1939 on Macc's archive website.

http://www.silkmenarchives.org.uk/head_to_head/hth_cl_A_to_P.html


Also numerous players who have played for both clubs in the player profile section, however it doesn't look like any of the line up shown above were included.
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[holtie96]

Many thanks...

[Auchinleckian]

From what vague memories I have weren't North End gearing up to be the 3rd Football League team in Manchester until something went tits up with them pre WW2?

[holtie96]

Come on John, you're not that old!
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[mcfc56]

Auchinleckian wrote:

From what vague memories I have weren't North End gearing up to be the 3rd Football League team in Manchester until something went tits up with them pre WW2?

I think Manchester Central FC fit that description better, their application to join the League in 1932 was accepted initially but then both City and United complained and the application was rejected.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manchester_Central_F.C.

[Auchinleckian]

From the Association of Football Statisticians non league annual of 1983, it would appear that North End were members of the Manchester League between the wars. In the 1920's they won the league in 1924-5, and were runners up the following season. They won their second title in 1936-7.

Other teams who graced the Manchester League were the likes of New Mills - record title winners with ten, Hyde Utd, Altrincham, Macclesfield, Glossop and Northwich Victoria.

[manchesterunitedman1]

holtie96 wrote:

Many thanks for the reply that was all I could see on the net! Hopefully treble or Leslie can shed some light????

Here I am and got some original information to share.

mcfc56 is quite correct in that it was Manchester Central not Manchester North End that attempted to gain entry into the League in the early 1930's.

Here is the original letter Central's Chairman sent to all the football league clubs and the football league and accompanying is the original application, all very fascinating stuff. Manchester United were the poor relations in 1932 to Manchester City[as they are to this day financially speaking] and it was United's more so than City's concern that MUFC would get affected even though Central's ground was closer to City, an interesting read for sure.....
http://flic.kr/p/eaRyYv

http://flic.kr/p/eaXbSo
http://flic.kr/p/eaXbRN

http://flic.kr/p/eaRyYZ

Leslie Millman is manchesterunitedman1

[treble99]

And here i am as well.

As soon as people hear Manchester they believe there is an association with United(or City)

This club ,as has been pointed out,had nothing whatsoever to do with either.

Similarly there is sometimes thought to be an association with another local amateur club called Newton Heath Loco but again there is no connection.

Where there is however a mysterious connection is with a local amateur club called Goslings who were a very strong amateur side in Manchester around the second world war time .
It is possible they were the Manchester equivalent of The Corinthians.
They certainly fed a more than average number into Manchester United and Manchester City.

Nobody at Manchester United will talk about what happened.
I am privileged in as much as i have a strong working relationship with the Manchester United museum and they won't talk.
Rumour has it that Manchester United were writing "expense" cheques for the Goslings who then got greedy and demanded more.

United cut them off and i believe they folded.
OK

On a different note if you wish to see some quality Manchester United items please feel free to take a look at the worlds largest Manchester United collection on

www.flickr.com/photos/63580000@N04/sets

I have just loaded some autographs up including the autographs of the first Manchester United championship winning team of 1908/09.

I am stumped on a couple of them so any help from other forum members would be appreciated

Also loaded up some rare stewards badges believed to be from the 1920's and 1930's

Enjoy!!

[derby1884]

Great to read all this..........but who were these guys, then?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/derby1884/7974597472/in/set-72157631507173005

Are they still around?
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[manchesterunitedman1]

derby1884 wrote:

Great to read all this..........but who were these guys, then? http://www.flickr.com/photos/derby1884/7974597472/in/set-72157631507173005 Are they still around?

Manchester United were originally formed in 1878 by a group of railways workers employed by the Lancashire and Yorkshire Railways who worked at the Newton Heath wagon works all of which is common knowledge to everyone or is available to anyone who ever cared to look for it.

However in subsequent years when after 1902 when Newton Heath changed it's name to Manchester United there was a local Manchester club who were known as Newton Heath Loco and played in the local leagues.
Manchester United who ran several teams would have one of their sides notably the "colts" another name for the "A" or "B" teams that would compete each season locally, i am attaching a programme for a very rare issue of a Newton Heath Loco programme versus Manchester United 1950 and the game was played at Ceylon Street and this is where Steve at Derby1884 poses the question, who was therefore Manchester Northern[who also played at Ceylon Street], well i would suggest it was a new club formed after the NH Loco folded up. In fact about 10-12 years ago a chap called me to say he owned the ground where United used to play!-it turned out it was the NH Loco ground[Ceylon Street] and he had purchased it to buld homes on it, i had to let him down gently when he thought he could sell some crumbling old stand and some wood worm goal posts as they had NO connection to Manchester United!.
This is a programme that was once owned by a former MUJAC[Manchester United Junior Athlectic Club] player and i cannot imagine there being another around all these years later but in collecting circles you never know as if there is one then there may well be two!

As for Manchester Northern as a club today, i have no idea if they are still in existence.

http://flic.kr/p/5H1bJf

Leslie Millman is manchesterunitedman1