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Tynie Topics · Joined: 26 Nov 2009 Posts: 3570

Is this out yet? if it is I've not got my copy so I think it must be stuck in the postal system Mad

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kcs · Joined: 29 Dec 2008 Posts: 1655 Location: Ashford, Kent

Mr anti-eBay has it available on er......... eBay!!

Would assume it's the postal system (still waiting for 5 new additions to the collection)
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oldbolt · Joined: 06 Jun 2009 Posts: 434

The latest time for payment for the postal discount was Tues 21st at 9am so that will mean they were posted Tuesday morning/afternoon.

I don't think the posties are attempting to deliver around here, i have had nothing since Friday and can't see PM arriving until next week.

Tynie Topics · Joined: 26 Nov 2009 Posts: 3570

So did anyone actually get it before Xmas?
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smk06 · Joined: 25 Nov 2008 Posts: 509 Location: North of Leeds

Nope! I'm sure the previous edition claimed that it would arrive in time for Christmas.

oldbolt · Joined: 06 Jun 2009 Posts: 434

I didn't get mine, but Mr Litster received positive feedback on ebay on 23rd Dec and 24 Dec from people who had received the Jan issue.

rob71 · Joined: 21 Nov 2008 Posts: 472

Not got mine yet either.

Andrew BSFC · Joined: 18 Jul 2010 Posts: 297

Mine arrived on Christmas eve

lincolnredman · Joined: 25 Sep 2009 Posts: 454 Location: lincoln

haven't got mine yet,i might pick it up at the manchester fair!!!!!

Tynie Topics · Joined: 26 Nov 2009 Posts: 3570

Anyone still waiting? Crying or Very sad

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lincolnredman · Joined: 25 Sep 2009 Posts: 454 Location: lincoln

i'm still waiting for mine Crying or Very sad

all those bargins i'm missing out on Shocked

Auchinleckian · Forum Moderator Joined: 21 Nov 2008 Posts: 4352

Am I in a minority of folk who haven't subscribed to it for donkey's years, because of the banality of the editor's programmes for sale taking up page after page after page, costing the punters excess postage, and having excess space compared to that received when paying for an advert??

hibernian · Joined: 27 Oct 2009 Posts: 600

I stopped my subscription about 2 years ago and now pick up the PM from Almondvale programmes. Cannot remember the last time I made an offer for a programme.. Still a lot of good reading in the articles however in my opinion making it worth £2.50 a month.

tommy · Joined: 21 Nov 2008 Posts: 180 Location: Planet Earth

Auchinleckian wrote:

the banality of the editor's programmes for sale taking up page after page after page, costing the punters excess postage, and having excess space compared to that received when paying for an advert??

Cynical but true.

smk06 · Joined: 25 Nov 2008 Posts: 509 Location: North of Leeds

This month's PM without the advert section is 72 pages including front and reverse covers.

The pull out advert section has 88 pages of which around 56 are PM's own adverts for programmes, binders, back issues, books, databases etc.

There's a notice on page 59 that says so far there has been no offer to relieve the editor "of the burden of delivering this publication to you every month."

Just think what could be done with PM - an improved website (maybe an option to submit adverts via this), fewer pages of adverts which would bring the cost of magazine/postage down etc.

If I had more more collecting experience/contacts in the hobby it's something I may consider. But for now it's back to teaching kids!

Tynie Topics · Joined: 26 Nov 2009 Posts: 3570

Auchinleckian wrote:

Am I in a minority of folk who haven't subscribed to it for donkey's years, because of the banality of the editor's programmes for sale taking up page after page after page, costing the punters excess postage, and having excess space compared to that received when paying for an advert??

No idea, I just want my copy to arrive. I actually enjoy reading it.

(although I agree the individual advert supplement seems completely unnecesary these days)
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Tynie Topics · Joined: 26 Nov 2009 Posts: 3570

smk06 wrote:

This month's PM without the advert section is 72 pages including front and reverse covers.

The pull out advert section has 88 pages of which around 56 are PM's own adverts for programmes, binders, back issues, books, databases etc.

There's a notice on page 59 that says so far there has been no offer to relieve the editor "of the burden of delivering this publication to you every month."

Just think what could be done with PM - an improved website (maybe an option to submit adverts via this), fewer pages of adverts which would bring the cost of magazine/postage down etc.

If I had more more collecting experience/contacts in the hobby it's something I may consider. But for now it's back to teaching kids!

I agree it could be a whole lot better than it is, and I've pointed that out several times on here.

However, if nobody steps forward to offer help or take the magazine over, then we just have to accept that what we have now is the best it's going to be.

Maybe it could be improved with more people contributing interesting articles?
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Auchinleckian · Forum Moderator Joined: 21 Nov 2008 Posts: 4352

Maybe it could be improved with more people contributing interesting articles?

But why should people contribute articles that generate profit and receive no remuneration or the like for their efforts? PM is a business. How many other businesses do you know where the supply chain gives it's expertise and goods to the seller for free? I gave up contributing articles a long long while ago when it became patently obvious to me.
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Tynie Topics · Joined: 26 Nov 2009 Posts: 3570

Auchinleckian wrote:

But why should people contribute articles that generate profit and receive no remuneration or the like for their efforts? PM is a business. How many other businesses do you know where the supply chain gives it's expertise and goods to the seller for free? I gave up contributing articles a long long while ago when it became patently obvious to me.
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Personally doesn't bother me if it's turning a profit or not, I have written articles in the past and contributed information and it never crossed my mind that I should be paid for it, I just hoped that my contributions in some way either helped fellow collectors or gave them something interesting to read.
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Auchinleckian · Forum Moderator Joined: 21 Nov 2008 Posts: 4352

Obviously we disagree on this, but do you ken of any journalists who work for nothing? No, they write because they're paid to do so, the organization they work for generates profit. If it was a free sheet I wouldn't have a problem with writing for it, same as we give information for free on here. Surely, providing articles for a nationally read magazine that generates profit should do similar, or the like, like free advertising for contributors?