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kilfie58



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2018 9:49 pm 
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Hi all,

I am looking to complete my collection. Wondering if anyone has for sale any Chelsea home postponed programmes 1947-74.
There are 18, of
Which 15 are known to certainly exist.
Sensible prices only please, I have been collecting for 50 years.

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cfcmartin1965



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2018 11:21 pm 
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Hello Kilfie,

Good luck in your quest to complete your Chelsea postponed homes. I do not have any spares for sale but still require 7 programmes myself to complete my collection.

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kilfie58



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2018 11:36 pm 
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Hello Martin,

Thank you for your reply, and I wish you good luck as well.
Please pm me with your requirements, as one may be one of my spares.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2018 11:00 am 
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Hi all,

Relating to this subject, was there a programme issued by Chelsea for the postponed game v Wolves in December 1967. Been looking for this for years and would like to check I've not wasting my time.

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kilfie58



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2018 11:36 am 
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Hello there,

Yes it exists. I have a copy.
It is extremely rare. I know of only 5/6 other examples.
Perhaps there are more out there!

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2018 12:12 pm 
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Hi, on this topic, does anyone know if a programme was produced for Liverpool's visit to Chelsea on 13th January 1968 (match postponed).
thanks.
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kilfie58



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2018 12:30 pm 
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Hello there,

Yes, that programme exists as well. Again, a very rare one.

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kilfie58



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2018 12:46 pm 
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For all who wonder... Here is the complete list of Chelsea home postponed games and programmes, 1946-74. There are 3, not known to exist (to my knowledge).

Middlesbrough 8.2.47 (no known programme)
Portsmouth. 12.2.46 (no known programme)
Liverpool 6.12.52
Luton T. 29.12.62
Stoke City. 1.1.63 (no known programme)
Leeds Utd. 2.2.63
Portsmouth. 16.2.63
Portsmouth. 20.2.63
Sunderland. 20.11.65
Blackburn. 18.12.65
Barcelona. 20.4.66
Wolves. 9.12.67
Liverpool. 13.1. 68
Stoke City. 28.12.68
Stoke City. 29.11.68
Liverpool. 14.2.70
Burnley. 6.2.74
Sheffield Utd. 23.11.74

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2018 1:08 pm 
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Kilfie58

With regards to the chelsea v pompey postponed on your list.........

None appear on Pompeys postponed list so you can pretty sure no programmes were issued.....BUT...If they do exist I love to see a scan.

Of course 62/63 season was wiped out for about 6 weeks through snow.



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kilfie58



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2018 1:19 pm 
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Hello there,

I know a person who owns one of them. He knows another who owns both of the 62/63 ones, 16.2.63 and 20.2.63.
They both have the same photo on the front, the same one used for the next played home game, v Huddersfield 2.3.63.
Apparently, though I've not seen it myself, the postponed Leeds 2.2.63 also has the same photo.

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kilfie58



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2018 1:35 pm 
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In addition,

The postponed programme v Portsmouth 12.2.47 is not known to exist. However, according to the sources I enquired into years ago, the printers needed a minimum of 3 days before publication.
As the previous game, 8.2.47, v Middlesbrough, was postponed, it is entirely possible for both that programme and the Portsmouth one to exist, due to time parameters.
Of course, it would be completely normal for all examples to be destroyed in the furnace before delivery to Stamford Bridge.

Hope this helps.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2018 3:19 pm 
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kilfie58 wrote:
Hello there,

I know a person who owns one of them. He knows another who owns both of the 62/63 ones, 16.2.63 and 20.2.63.
They both have the same photo on the front, the same one used for the next played home game, v Huddersfield 2.3.63.
Apparently, though I've not seen it myself, the postponed Leeds 2.2.63 also has the same photo.

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Kilfie58.......If your friend could scan the front cover, even if its the same photo, it would show the date of the match.....either post on here or....
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2018 3:28 pm 
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From what I recall of the pitch at Stamford Bridge during the 60/70s, this list should be a lot longer!

And as for the Baseball Ground, Derby..........well....sandcastles were called for!

Who remembers them painting the penalty spot, ahead of a penalty kick on MOTD. Ah nostalgia ain’t what it used to be.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2018 3:36 pm 
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I have a scan of one already.
However, I have not been given permission to share it as yet. And I am keeping my word to keep it unseen, until I'm told it's OK to do otherwise. I respect the person and value the trust and friendship.
Rest assured however, I will post a scan here, if and when I recieve that permission.
With such a rare item, it is understandable that one guards the item closely. Actually knowing that the item (s) exist (s) is fulfilling enough for some. I do appreciate however, that "seeing is believing". I will state, that I personally have no reason to lie.. And I don't intend to start now. The 16.2.63 is the one I have a scan of.
Now you know as much as I do about it, except who owns it (them).
Sorry I cannot, at this moment in time, be more helpful.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2018 6:36 pm 
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kilfie58 wrote:
For all who wonder... Here is the complete list of Chelsea home postponed games and programmes, 1946-74. There are 3, not known to exist (to my knowledge).

Middlesbrough 8.2.47 (no known programme)
Portsmouth. 12.2.46 (no known programme)
Liverpool 6.12.52
Luton T. 29.12.62
Stoke City. 1.1.63 (no known programme)
Leeds Utd. 2.2.63
Portsmouth. 16.2.63
Portsmouth. 20.2.63
Sunderland. 20.11.65
Blackburn. 18.12.65
Barcelona. 20.4.66
Wolves. 9.12.67
Liverpool. 13.1. 68
Stoke City. 28.12.68
Stoke City. 29.11.68
Liverpool. 14.2.70
Burnley. 6.2.74
Sheffield Utd. 23.11.74

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Makes a change not to have anything v Manchester United[other than the recent one a few years back with JT on the cover]!
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2018 6:49 pm 
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manchesterunitedman1 wrote:
kilfie58 wrote:
For all who wonder... Here is the complete list of Chelsea home postponed games and programmes, 1946-74. There are 3, not known to exist (to my knowledge).

Middlesbrough 8.2.47 (no known programme)
Portsmouth. 12.2.46 (no known programme)
Liverpool 6.12.52
Luton T. 29.12.62
Stoke City. 1.1.63 (no known programme)
Leeds Utd. 2.2.63
Portsmouth. 16.2.63
Portsmouth. 20.2.63
Sunderland. 20.11.65
Blackburn. 18.12.65
Barcelona. 20.4.66
Wolves. 9.12.67
Liverpool. 13.1. 68
Stoke City. 28.12.68
Stoke City. 29.11.68
Liverpool. 14.2.70
Burnley. 6.2.74
Sheffield Utd. 23.11.74

Best wishes

Makes a change not to have anything v Manchester United[other than the recent one a few years back with JT on the cover]!
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Yes! How very true!
The thought occurred to me a few months ago that a more expensive buy of a modern programme, the Chelsea v Barcelona 20.4.66, is only compared to the PP Man Utd programme straight after the Munich air crash.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2018 11:44 pm 
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Great thread, all of these are very rare. The club obviously had a habit of destroying programmes for postponed games probably due the value of the tokens printed on the back. I only have 3 of these myself and rarely see them for sale.

Strange that the Barcelona game was always thought to be a non issue and then 2 have appeared on Ebay in recent months. One sold for £1600 and the other £1400.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2018 1:46 am 
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From a collectors perspective how do we evaluate a “postponement” and how do you record your teams postponements?

I personally don’t record a game as being postponed if the game has to be rescheduled due to one of the teams being involved in a Cup -Tie.

For example, in terms of the 08.02.47 Chelsea v Middlesbrough postponement, Boro were involved in a FA Cup tie on this date v Notts Forest so I wouldn’t record it as a postponement.

Am I right or wrong?
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Rocky wrote:
From a collectors perspective how do we evaluate a “postponement” and how do you record your teams postponements?

I personally don’t record a game as being postponed if the game has to be rescheduled due to one of the teams being involved in a Cup -Tie.

For example, in terms of the 08.02.47 Chelsea v Middlesbrough postponement, Boro were involved in a FA Cup tie on this date v Notts Forest so I wouldn’t record it as a postponement.

Am I right or wrong?


Why would that not count as a postponement? It was scheduled for 8-2-47 and postponed to another date due to Boro's cup commitments. What is it if not a postponement?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2018 10:50 am 
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Rocky wrote:
From a collectors perspective how do we evaluate a “postponement” and how do you record your teams postponements?

I personally don’t record a game as being postponed if the game has to be rescheduled due to one of the teams being involved in a Cup -Tie.

For example, in terms of the 08.02.47 Chelsea v Middlesbrough postponement, Boro were involved in a FA Cup tie on this date v Notts Forest so I wouldn’t record it as a postponement.

Am I right or wrong?


Hello Rocky,

In nearly every such case, you make a valid point. However, according to all sources I've enquired into, this game was postponed at a late date due to weather conditions, not due to a rearranged Cup game being played instead.
It may well be that the Middlesbrough Cup game was rearranged upon the postponement of this league game.
Hence, it is classed, the league game, as a postponement, due to adverse weather conditions.

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