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[bigdavethemaddog]

has anybody received a message from ebay asking for your NI number on your account?

[se20blue]

Yes

Due to UK digital sales reporting legislation, eBay is required to collect and report seller tax identification information to HMRC, including National Insurance (NI) numbers, if sales exceed 30 items or £1,740 in a calendar year.
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[ndg1860]

However...

Let's say that someone does not have a NI No. They are a foreigner who is a resident here and has never worked here, but is selling on eBay. Then eBay cannot pass on anything to HMRC, bar the simple personal details. I wonder what they (both HMRC and eBay) would do there? Could HMRC then force eBay to halt that person from selling on eBay or force the person to create a NI No.? I do understand this is somewhat rare, but it could happen, easily.

[se20blue]

I would think Ebay would restrict the account until an NI number was forthcoming which would mean they would be unable to list anything. This is what happens when Ebay force private accounts to business accounts.
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[Pete’s Picture Palace]

What happens if you tell them to get stuffed? Do they strike you off or send the boys round? Or would HMRC pay you a visit?

[martino]

bigdavethemaddog wrote:

has anybody received a message from ebay asking for your NI number on your account?

Yes but I have nothing to fear as everything I sell is already declared to HMRC

[Tynie Topics]

I think the obvious point here is that HMRC don't in any way shape or form have the resources to do very much with this information. I'm going to bet that big numbers are perhaps glanced at, everything else will be filed.
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[Posh1959]

Tynie Topics wrote:

I think the obvious point here is that HMRC don't in any way shape or form have the resources to do very much with this information. I'm going to bet that big numbers are perhaps glanced at, everything else will be filed.

Think you are correct, they do not have the resources, very much a scare tactic. They don’t have resources to check up on all but a small percentage of tax returns etc let alone eBay sales.

Regarding NINO’s, all HMRC would need is your name and address and their computer would show your NINO so there is no need for EBay to request it.

[CodeXIII]

Waited 14 days for payments sent with no tracking (fair enough was under £50 but still 12 days longer than it used to be!)

sent three really expensive items tracked so already £45 down.
Previously, payment from buyers would be available with 48 hours so no issue usually.

Now, I've been waiting 8 days. The item was delivered yesterday and the buyer kindly left + feedback...it will be ANOTHER 2 days before the money becomes available. Basically, ebay earning 10 days interest on my / our money even when you send tracked and get positive feedback!

I really can't be arsed acting as a bank for them so will be closing my 15 year seller account once all payments received.
Sold almost all of my stuff before this dickhead change came in!

[Ron Saunders 2]

It's clear that the people at eBay who came up with this act of self harm had studied Alissa Heinerscheid and thought that she was brilliant.

[derby1884]

Pete’s Picture Palace wrote:

What happens if you tell them to get stuffed? Do they strike you off or send the boys round? Or would HMRC pay you a visit?

Unlimited powers, Pete!
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[Ron Saunders 2]

derby1884 wrote:

Pete’s Picture Palace wrote: What happens if you tell them to get stuffed? Do they strike you off or send the boys round? Or would HMRC pay you a visit? Unlimited powers, Pete!

But not unlimited resources..

I've contacted HMRC and from what was said, they will only look at people who have sales over £7k as that is the chattels exemption that we all have.

[colchestersid]

Starting from 15 April, Simple Delivery will be the only delivery method available for private sellers when listing most items. There’ll be a few exceptions, such as low-priced, bulky items, and local pick-up, which aren’t eligible for Simple Delivery.

As expected, eBay are forcing private sellers to use "Simple Delivery"

The email confirms you can at least choose which carrier to use (Evri and/or Royal Mail) but is vague on the exceptions for low value items. 90% of my sale proceeds come from programmes/tickets sold for £20 or more (these are all sent with Tracked 24 or Special Delivery) but for the lower value stuff which I send with a second class stamp and proof of postage (85p or £1.55 depending on size) it looks like I'll be forced to use Tracked 48 (£2.70)

Simple answer of course is to stop listing anything under £20

[wbw]

In my experience, proof of postage is simply not worth the bit of paper the Post Office give you.

[martino]

wbw wrote:

In my experience, proof of postage is simply not worth the bit of paper the Post Office give you.

But that is a bit of paper that you need to submit if making a claim for loss / damage.

[colchestersid]

I had a programme go missing in the post to one of my buyers - eBay processed a refund to the buyer and Royal Mail in turn refunded me based on my proof of posting.

It was only £6.49 but the system worked as it should

[grantham]

Just to echo colchestersid thoughts on the matter

The new BIGGER issue is the introduction of Simple Delivery, come the 15th April 2025, it really looks like a deliberate disaster waiting to happen to try and force private sellers into business accounts.

The weight tiers are simplified but they charge more for each tier, so rather than £3.39 for a 1kg tracked parcel, ebay will charge £3.74 for the exact same service. So that's a typical book weight or a small bundle of programmes, 35p increase just because they are forcing you to use Simple Delivery.

To make matters worse, RM currently charge the same £3.39 upto 2kg, however ebay have seen a nice way to make more profit, with a price tag of £4.27 for the same service. A nice 88p per order they cream off the top.

The only way to benefit from that is if the parcel is bigger and not heavy (a luxury we don't enjoy in sending paper based products) as the parcel size limit is that of a medium parcel, beyond 2kg you jump to 15kg and are charged a whopping £10.55 for a service you can currently buy directly with RM for just £6.65 for anything upto 10kg. So huge profits for ebay if you are sending anything over 2kg upto 10kg of £3.90

I can't see this as anything other than a money grab and to force private sellers to switch to business accounts, it's just not going to be viable to sell as a private seller
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[Tynie Topics]

We’ve made some improvements to Buyer Protection to better support your sales. Starting today, we’re reducing the buyer fee to make your lower-priced items more appealing to buyers. From 6 Aug, you’ll also receive your funds within 24 hours of the buyer paying.
Get your funds faster
You’ve told us that it’s important to know you’ll be paid shortly after a buyer places an order, and we’ve listened. Starting from 6 Aug, you’ll receive your funds in your eBay balance within 24 hours of the buyer paying. This will automatically apply for orders completed after 6 Aug, so there’s nothing you need to do.
Learn more about getting paid

How Buyer Protection works
Buyer Protection helps maintain a safe marketplace with risk monitoring, fraud detection, 24/7 customer support, and secure transactions for all purchases.
We’ve now reduced the fixed portion of the Buyer Protection fee from £0.75 to £0.10. Buyers still pay the fee and it’s included in the item price, so there are no surprises at checkout. Here’s how it’s calculated:
• A flat fee of £0.10 per item
• 7% of the item price up to £20

• 4% of any portion of the item price from £20 to £300
• 2% of any portion of the item price from £300 to £4,000
• No fee for the portion of the item price over £4,000


When your buyer purchases multiple identical items in the same order, they only pay the flat fee once.
A live calculator is coming soon, where you’ll be able to enter a price and see the Buyer Protection fee in real-time, so you’ll know exactly what your buyers will pay. When making or reviewing offers, you’ll also see the fee split out from the total item price.
From today, you’ll be able to see the updated rates on your listings, and will notice the greatest impact on items priced £10 or less. If you have any active auctions and offers, they’ll continue to include the existing rates.
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[Ron Saunders 2]

Tynie Topics wrote:

We’ve made some improvements to Buyer Protection to better support your sales. Starting today, we’re reducing the buyer fee to make your lower-priced items more appealing to buyers. From 6 Aug, you’ll also receive your funds within 24 hours of the buyer paying. Get your funds faster You’ve told us that it’s important to know you’ll be paid shortly after a buyer places an order, and we’ve listened. Starting from 6 Aug, you’ll receive your funds in your eBay balance within 24 hours of the buyer paying. This will automatically apply for orders completed after 6 Aug, so there’s nothing you need to do. Learn more about getting paid How Buyer Protection works Buyer Protection helps maintain a safe marketplace with risk monitoring, fraud detection, 24/7 customer support, and secure transactions for all purchases. We’ve now reduced the fixed portion of the Buyer Protection fee from £0.75 to £0.10. Buyers still pay the fee and it’s included in the item price, so there are no surprises at checkout. Here’s how it’s calculated: • A flat fee of £0.10 per item • 7% of the item price up to £20 • 4% of any portion of the item price from £20 to £300 • 2% of any portion of the item price from £300 to £4,000 • No fee for the portion of the item price over £4,000 When your buyer purchases multiple identical items in the same order, they only pay the flat fee once. A live calculator is coming soon, where you’ll be able to enter a price and see the Buyer Protection fee in real-time, so you’ll know exactly what your buyers will pay. When making or reviewing offers, you’ll also see the fee split out from the total item price. From today, you’ll be able to see the updated rates on your listings, and will notice the greatest impact on items priced £10 or less. If you have any active auctions and offers, they’ll continue to include the existing rates.

I've seen that message today as well.

It's as many of us said - this 75p "buyer protection" was a load of cobblers and patently the traffic through eBay has reduced by enough to make them backtrack massively.

eBay have a remarkable propensity to break things that work and then have to correct their mistake.

I hope that the person / group who suggested the "Vintedfication" of eBay have had a serious bollocking.

[bigdavethemaddog]

Get rid of simple delivery as well while they are at it