1921 FA Cup final programme on EBAY.

[Northernspurs]

Hi all,has anyone seen the 1921 fa cup final programme on ebay at the minuite?
I have one myself which i offered on here recently and to be honest i would have took £1500 for up till seeing the price this one is on(£1850 with 3 days to go).
What i want you guys opinion on is do you think this could be a sign that the market is picking up?

[Wullie]

In my opinion there is no logic, why one programme will sell well, and others do not. Luck plays it's part on ebay. I couple of big buyers may be on holiday. When you sell, the programme may have been on a few times in one month. What i would say normally happens is, you see a good price for a programme , then two or three will turn up wanting the same price, but they normally go for less. Or it could go the other way. Someone who misses out may be desperate not to let another go?Your cup final will always sell for a good price , but i have seen a few copies for sale over the year, even for this rarity.

[Auchinleckian]

Think Wullie's got it exactly right. Your best bet if wanting to get top whack for that, or any programme, is to put it into auction with a reserve on it. I'm convinced some people put things into auction with high reserves just to test the market as there's no fee for no sale.
When you look at things logically, a lot of dealers still have bog standard 60's programmes starting at £4 each. They haven't fetched this ever in my opinion, and nowadays the vast majority of them - with obvious exceptions - go for 99 pence on ebay, if at all. The bulk sales of them at Auction usually go for less than 50 pence per programme in total. The market therefore is skewed. Bigger items will always find a level in or around a guaranteed price, but the mundane stuff is destined for bulk sales at auction, or nothing.

[Footybits]

Agree with everything Wullie and Auchinleckian say, apart from the fact that there IS a fee to pay if the item isnt sold.

This first insertion fee though is credited if the item is relisted within 90 days (in exactly the same format as the original listing) AND subsequently sells on this first relist.

If it doesnt sell the initial insertion fee wont be credited and youll be charged for the second insertion fee as well.

Believe me, I got caught out with this big style when I started out selling on there as I relisted hundreds of items and got a helluva shock when I got the invoice.

I actually spent ages on the phone complaining with an Ebay helpdesk guy, he didnt even understand the process fully so its hardly surprising us mere mortals cant !!

Its a massively grey area exactly how this works and isnt really explained very well on Ebay who are a bit naughty when they claim they offer a "no fee free relist credit".
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[Auchinleckian]

Footybits wrote:

Agree with everything Wullie and Auchinleckian say, apart from the fact that there IS a fee to pay if the item isnt sold. This first insertion fee though is credited if the item is relisted within 90 days (in exactly the same format as the original listing) AND subsequently sells on this first relist. If it doesnt sell the initial insertion fee wont be credited and youll be charged for the second insertion fee as well. Believe me, I got caught out with this big style when I started out selling on there as I relisted hundreds of items and got a helluva shock when I got the invoice. I actually spent ages on the phone complaining with an Ebay helpdesk guy, he didnt even understand the process fully so its hardly surprising us mere mortals cant !! Its a massively grey area exactly how this works and isnt really explained very well on Ebay who are a bit naughty when they claim they offer a "no fee free relist credit".

I'm talking about proper auctions, not ebay. There's no charge without sale at the like of Sportingold, who run an excellent service.

[Footybits]

Sorry, as the topic was about Ebay I assumed you meant Ebay.
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[giorgio]

I don't know about Sportingold, but auction houses generally charge a fee for listing an item in the first place. There may not be a charge for an item not selling but there will still be fees to pay.

[Posh1959]

None of the sporting memorabilia auctions charge a lotting fee, they purely charge a commission on sales which is usually 10%, in the case of Sportingold plus VAT.

[giorgio]

I stand corrected. Could have sworn Graham Budd Auctions charged a lotting fee. Have just checked his website and the only charge for unsold items is for having items insured whilst in their care.