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ntw



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2015 4:29 pm 
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Thought I'd ask for opinions on something I've been mulling over for a while and struggling to make a decision on.

I've been offered a rare programme (rugby, not football), that I'm very keen on. Trouble is, it's an ex-bound one, and has for some inexplicable reason been trimmed, quite significantly: something like a quarter inch on the long side, to the extent that there is text missing. Condition is otherwise good.

What would you do? Do I wait for a good condition one to come up and take my chances-it's rare, but very collectible, so I'm sure it'll re-surface again; or do I pick this up, possibly just as a filler? And then the bigger question: how much?? As a ball park, I reckon about a grand for one in decent nick; so what would this be worth?

Any thoughts, opinions or advice appreciated.
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hydemaine



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2015 4:40 pm 
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As Mr Millman on here would say 'where there's one there's two'
Personally I would wait until the acceptable one came along. It would irratate me that I had something not fully to my liking in my collection.
Only my opinion I'm sure there will be others who will think the opposite.
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bisphamseasider



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2015 4:52 pm 
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I always draw the line at programmes with 'bits' missing and in this instance, with a sizeable strip removed, resulting in loss of text as well, it would be a no-no from me.

You'd probably still have to pay a fair amount as well so it would probably be better to wait for a decent copy.

Unless of course you can get this one for peanuts and as you say use it as a filler for now.
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pafcprogs



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2015 5:12 pm 
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I have never had a problem with "fillers" especially some of the hard to get friendlies but would expect to be paying peanuts for it if there is text missing...

One of the things that will keep me collecting is once I have got all the ones I can sensibly acquire I will start to look for replacements for those that a re substandard...

I have never minded team changes....but would prefer not to have anything written on the cover...

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tackler7



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2015 10:02 pm 
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My view is if you want it and can afford it then buy it.


Another one may come along but if it doesn't you will kick yourself for letting this one pass you by.

Obviously I would expect the price to match the condition.
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roughyedz



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2015 2:16 am 
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If you know what the text is that is missing you could always get in touch with Eammon at programme preservation to see what he could do for you .......... ??????
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Fishy



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2015 1:35 pm 
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Some programmes were trimmed to fit in the binders. If this is the case then any more coming on to the market could be in the same condition unless you are lucky enough to find a nice unbound copy.................

Difficult choice, but as said above price matters but also the rarity needs to be taken into account.

Your choice at the end of the day.

Good luck.
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charliemitten



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2015 1:41 pm 
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Hi
new to the forum.
I have a few programmes that need repairing I don't want to try it myself
as it will look botched.
Is there anyone on here who can do a good job?
It's mainly splits to spines on three and a ripped inside page on one.
Would work like this be pricey?
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Fishy



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2015 1:44 pm 
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Hi Charliemitten,
The best in the business to my knowledge is Eamon at Programme Preservation - http://www.progpres.co.uk/
You will see his name pop up on here quite a lot as having produced excellent work.
He will also give you an indication of price before he starts if you wish.
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charliemitten



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2015 1:45 pm 
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Hi Fishy thanks for the information.

I'll wait till he comes on here and ask him is Eamonn his user name on here?
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charliemitten



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2015 1:48 pm 
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Fishy the link you provided is for home repairs I'd rather someone else who knows what their doing does it.
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charliemitten



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2015 1:50 pm 
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cancel that I see it now on the contact page sorry
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manchesterunitedman1



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2015 5:44 pm 
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Yes it is one of my standard lines, where there is one, then there is 2-usually accurate as far as the items I have applied it too BUT there are situations where this may not always be the case and as has been pointed out already by other members, then if it can be obtained at a lower price due to having some text missing then I would consider to go for it as you if u ever find another one and you paid the right price for this one then sell it on at a competitive rate.

If it is that rare an item then buy as it's better than it nagging at you for years later!

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goonerboy



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2015 5:57 pm 
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Good question. Personally I don't go for fillers in my collection. I only buy a item with which I am happy with the quality. That is not to say that everything I have is in perfect nick but I am happy with the faults and once I have it I move on. Of course if a lot better quality one becomes available at a suitable price then I would likely buy and sell on my lower quality copy. However I no longer actively seek out the item.

So if it was me then you need to ask the question that given its rarity and age (if older item) then are you happy with it in your collection in that condition ?

If you just keep thinking about how and when and how much it will cost to replace it, then don't bother ....except if it a real bargain.

But if you buy a filler then you also should think about resale value because in fact that is your ultimate goal. As no point losing wads of money for something you don't want to keep anyway.
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roughyedz



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2015 2:17 am 
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charliemitten wrote:
Fishy the link you provided is for home repairs I'd rather someone else who knows what their doing does it.


Thats the correct page its a "HOME" page .................. as said by many people hes very good indeed see below for examples on his web site, he has done items for me so i can vouch for his excellence. Just post the items off ( by recorded delivery of course ) and after a month or so hey presto he works his magic. I would not swear to it but i dont think hes a memeber of this forum its just his buisiness. . . .

http://www.programmepreservation.co.uk/examples-of-work/
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Tynie Topics



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2015 10:32 am 
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roughyedz wrote:
charliemitten wrote:
Fishy the link you provided is for home repairs I'd rather someone else who knows what their doing does it.


Thats the correct page its a "HOME" page .................. as said by many people hes very good indeed see below for examples on his web site, he has done items for me so i can vouch for his excellence. Just post the items off ( by recorded delivery of course ) and after a month or so hey presto he works his magic. I would not swear to it but i dont think hes a memeber of this forum its just his buisiness. . . .

http://www.programmepreservation.co.uk/examples-of-work/


The Wimbledon 1922 was mine which he done a fantastic job on. I have since sold the programme but I think the new owner would have been happy It was in a dire state when I got it.
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charliemitten



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2015 10:35 am 
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Tynie Topics wrote:
roughyedz wrote:
charliemitten wrote:
Fishy the link you provided is for home repairs I'd rather someone else who knows what their doing does it.


Thats the correct page its a "HOME" page .................. as said by many people hes very good indeed see below for examples on his web site, he has done items for me so i can vouch for his excellence. Just post the items off ( by recorded delivery of course ) and after a month or so hey presto he works his magic. I would not swear to it but i dont think hes a memeber of this forum its just his buisiness. . . .

http://www.programmepreservation.co.uk/examples-of-work/


The Wimbledon 1922 was mine which he done a fantastic job on. I have since sold the programme but I think the new owner would have been happy It was in a dire state when I got it.



Yes his work looks brilliant I just wish I could get in touch with him. Still not answering his phone and no email reply yet. I'll keep trying though.
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hydemaine



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2015 11:01 am 
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Just to let you know Eamonn has now been in touch via email.

Thanks for all your help Guys Smile I myself was beginning to wonder where he had gone.
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