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ToffeeDan



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 11:58 am 
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For those of us who don't know Phil he's an avid collection of Dougania - anything to do with the great Derek Dougan. So the question is - do you have a footballing hero who you might consider collecting all sorts about - I believe, for example, Alan Ball inspired similar feelings amongst Evertonians of a certain age...
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 12:06 pm 
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When I was younger, it would have been Eric Cantona, but as my love for Burnley grew, it has become Burnley's greatest player of all time - Jimmy McIlroy.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 12:21 pm 
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If I were to go down that route, it would have to be the one and only Stuart "Psycho" Pearce. Legend Bow
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 1:36 pm 
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It would have to be Mel Sterland or David Hirst for me.

I did actually get the programme from New Zealand V England 1991 a couple of years ago (David Hirst's only England goal was in this game) and got him to sign the programme.

Wanted to do the same for Mel Sterland's only cap (Saudi Arabia away) but sadly there were no programmes issued!!
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I'm nowhere old enough to remember Dixie Dean, but the books I have read about him means he embodies everything which is great about Everton's History to me.

I have the books, a tape and his name in the lineups from some of my pre-war programmes make them special.

I have heard they are making a film about him!!
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 2:27 pm 
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i don't have a particular player but the Arsenal 70/71 team is a similar passion. At beginning of that season was when I started my serious interest in football due to being taken by my dad to a preaseason friendly. My dad told me that arsenal were the team to support and in my first season of support they win the double. Obsession ever since.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 2:45 pm 
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I can remember seeing Derek Dougan play for Leicester, but (Sorry Phil) I much preferred Frank Worthington one of the most flamboyant players I ever saw play for us, followed closely by Keith Weller. Unfortunately players of this ilk I dont think are around anymore, as most of them are just money orientated now.
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ToffeeDan



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 2:55 pm 
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foxes1 wrote:
I can remember seeing Derek Dougan play for Leicester, but (Sorry Phil) I much preferred Frank Worthington one of the most flamboyant players I ever saw play for us, followed closely by Keith Weller. Unfortunately players of this ilk I dont think are around anymore, as most of them are just money orientated now.


I know what you mean.. and, as an aside - not being much of an away traveller - do other teams give the visiting team's keeper a good round of applause like Everton fans do (although some goalies ignore it or think they are going to get the bird). I certainly remember Duncan McKenzie getting a rousing reception on returning to Goodison, ditto Alan Ball, Bob Latchford and the like..

For sure some of those characters have gone out of the game and the game is the lesser for it. George Best used to add thousands on the gate when Utd came to town and much the same (on a different scale) when he turned out for Fulham with Moore and Marsh.
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Molineux Phil



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 9:03 pm 
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Know that i have retired i am looking to writh a book about my love of this great former player . has thay say watch this space?. A love affait that has lasted over forty years , that is how i would describe my fascination with the late great footballer Derek Dougan.
I first saw The "Doog" play for Aston Villa his Football League debute at Goodison Park Everton opening fixture of the 61/62 season, he sported a Yul Brynner hair cut for, this game (totaly unheard of at the time),and i just fell in love with his style of center-forward play he had amazing heading ability and for such a tall guy 6ft 3 in great ability on the floor with a left foot that some of the know Prem players would die for.
The next time i saw him in action was at Wrexham December 63 after he had take a step down when moving to Third Division Peterborough United he scored two goals for The "Posh" in a 3-2 win at the Racecource.
His goals at London Road persuaded Leicester City to take a chance with his undouted ability and. bring him back to his riteful place in the First Division.
One of my fondest memories of his time at Leicester was a game i was at v Liverpool at Anfield Liverpools first home game of the 66/67 season when The "Doog" scored two amazing goals at the Kop end of the ground to bring City level at 2-2 only for them to loose the game to a Willie Stevenson pen late in the second half. But my fondest memorie his his first game at Molineux for The Wolves v Hull an amazing hat-trich on his home debute. Worthington , Weller grate players yes BUT thers only one Derek Dougan, I know some people are fascinated by the liks of Elvis,Monroe ,Brando etc but me it was just The "Doog" and my enthuiasm for all things Dougan keeps on going.
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ToffeeDan



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 9:07 pm 
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Not forgetting his contribution to the Reborn Wolves of course...
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 9:40 pm 
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A player I’ve read a lot about. but too young to see play was Len Shackleton.
The clown prince of soccer with his outlandish skills was the George Best of his era.
What is fascinating about him was his outspokenness against authority.
Apparently he went into the Newcastle dressing before an FA Cup Final and tried to get the players to strike for more money. His argument was with a crowd of 100,000, the players were performing for a pittance , and of course in those days he was correct. In his famous autobiography, entitled "Clown Prince of Soccer", contains a chapter headed: "The Average Director's Knowledge of Football". Of course the page is blank. I once had an original copy of the book , but sadly it’s has disappeared . I don’t collect anything in particular about Len Shackleton but I do have programmes from the early 1950’s. Imagine my delight , when one day I opened a programme I had just bought and there inside was a autograph of the great man himself. Many years ago I was sitting on a bus in Sunderland coach station waiting to depart when I saw an old man with a mass of white hair. It was Len waiting for a bus reading a newspaper. What a shame he wasn’t born 50 years later.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 2:28 am 
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For me it would be one of the Peters, Broadbent or Knowles. I have seen many great players for and against Wolves over many years of watching, but these two were the most naturally gifted I ever saw except for Bestie maybe.
As for Mr Dougan, I too remeber his home debut Hat-trick, and I always thought he was a great centre forward and a genuine Wolves legend, but please, please let us forget his comback to the Molineux as a member of the board, as he bought the Bhatti brothers with him, and that led to some of our darkest days.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 11:15 pm 
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westyorksnffc wrote:
If I were to go down that route, it would have to be the one and only Stuart "Psycho" Pearce. Legend Bow


Agreed.

I had the pleasure of looking through some of Bob 'Sammy' Chapman's memorabillia (he is my girlfriend's dad) and some of it is fascinating, including some of his shirts for Forest, Shrewsbury and Tulsa Roughnecks. By far the best thing I saw was his disciplinary record which he was copied into prior to a hearing before the FA, some of the referee reports were hilarious. He would have had 6 red-cards at least that season if he was playing today Laughing
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The SFC Chris



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Again sorry to bump an old topic but I thought I could add to it!

For me it would be Ronnie Henry or Dino Maamria. I've supported Stevenage from 2003-now and Ronnie Henry's been there as a player from 2005-now and is still only 28. Dino was with us for a few years from 2003-2006 I think, scored two crucial goals in the ultimately failed 2005 play-off campaign, and then came back as coach a couple of years ago.
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nozer



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 12:41 am 
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"As for Mr Dougan please please let us forget his comeback to the Molineux."
You mean like him putting his reputation and neck on the line when all around who were better of financily and experienced in business were dilly dalling.
If it was not for Mr Dougan there would be no Wolverhampton Wanderers today, some people have very short memories.
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redmiddyman



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Being a manchester United fan, this would have to be George Best.

Collecting games he played in would prob prove quite difficult especially playing in America and a few games in South Africa.
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Could only be our greatest ever player King Colin Bell, I have a couple of programmes signed by the man including his testimoinal and also his book.

Other than that anything to do with our 6-1 win at OT this season is always nice Easy Easy Easy Easy Easy Easy
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Do gun ! Do gun ! I can still here it now, although always a rival and even one for the old men in cack, I still had respect for him. Can't say the same about Bull, never liked him mainly because of his spoilt child approach to being sold by Albion. Know matter what he may have said in the past and in the future Steve Bull was always an Albion fan.

I don't have one players although like most baggies of my age I lean towards Astle, Brown and Allen but for me I collect all the players testimonials and enjoy them all.

Yesterday a bloke came to collect a package for delivery and I said "do you follow football ?" "used to" was the reply "but not now". "Wrong answer I said as I was going to offer you a year thanks gift".

He then went on to say he used to go the Albion ! needless to say the next 30 mins was me reeling of names from the past and events we both could enjoy all over again - I love football don't you ?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 7:00 pm 
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nozer wrote:
"As for Mr Dougan please please let us forget his comeback to the Molineux."
You mean like him putting his reputation and neck on the line when all around who were better of financily and experienced in business were dilly dalling.
If it was not for Mr Dougan there would be no Wolverhampton Wanderers today, some people have very short memories.


I really have a lot of time for the Doog as a footballer, he truly was a molineux great, but like it or not, his financial dealings were very bad for the club.
As for a short memory, you are wrong there my friend, I have a long memory, which is why I am one of the very few who is not a fan of the feted Jack Hayward at the Molineux. When Doog was putting together the Bhatti saving of the Wolves, The Great Mr Heyward was buying some island or other for the national trust, and Sir Jack only stepped in when The Wolves became a viable going concern, not so much of a saviour really.
But my point is that as I said to start, as a player I do agree Doog was a legend, I will agree with you there, besides that let us agree to disagree shall we ?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 8:35 pm 
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Wulfrunian wrote:
nozer wrote:
"As for Mr Dougan please please let us forget his comeback to the Molineux."
You mean like him putting his reputation and neck on the line when all around who were better of financily and experienced in business were dilly dalling.
If it was not for Mr Dougan there would be no Wolverhampton Wanderers today, some people have very short memories.


I really have a lot of time for the Doog as a footballer, he truly was a molineux great, but like it or not, his financial dealings were very bad for the club.
As for a short memory, you are wrong there my friend, I have a long memory, which is why I am one of the very few who is not a fan of the feted Jack Hayward at the Molineux. When Doog was putting together the Bhatti saving of the Wolves, The Great Mr Heyward was buying some island or other for the national trust, and Sir Jack only stepped in when The Wolves became a viable going concern, not so much of a saviour really.
But my point is that as I said to start, as a player I do agree Doog was a legend, I will agree with you there, besides that let us agree to disagree shall we ?

Prob be a good idea.
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