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Blackjack



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:44 pm 
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With the sad news of 2 of our own sadly passing away this week, RIP Mark and Bob, I have had great conversations with Mark previously and Bob seemed a top bloke, I would like to bring this sites members attention and hopefully some info on a alleged collector / dealer who has stitched me up.

Through all the years of collecting I have never been conned into paying for programmes and not receiving them as our hobby has some top people. Well it has happened and I'm fuming.
The person contacted me through a facebook programme collecting page, I can't remember which 1, asking what Swans programmes i need and after sending him a list he said he had some. He asked for £60 but he didnt have paypal so could I pay it into his account ( I know I'm a bloody idiot)
3 months later no programmes and after a couple of months of saying he had to wait for his benefits blah blah hes either deleted or blocked me.

Someone else has been done on the page to with the same name
So do not buy any programmes from ANDREW ASHMORE who claims to be a Preston fan and any info on him would be much appreciated

Happy Christmas to you all and your families
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grantham



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:08 pm 
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That name is blocked on many of the groups for exactly the reason you described. He approached many collectors stating he had exactly what they needed and the only way he could accept payment was direct into his mates account.

Just to re-iterate the point, NEVER do a bank transfer to someone you don't know or trust. If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is, this bloke has conned or at least try to con several people in several groups
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Ron Saunders 2



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2022 9:53 pm 
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No consolation, but he tried to stiff me. Asked for £60 for over 100 Villa tickets from the 70's. I did smell a rat and so called his bluff by saying that I'd drive to Preston to pick them up and then out came all the excuses about why I should just pay him.

He's not a dealer or collector. He's a con man in my experience
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2024 7:40 pm 
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Just a warning to one and all - he's still at it.
Managed to con £40 out of me just before Xmas.
50+ years in the hobby and that's my first time. Ah well.

Wish I'd done a bit of checking on here before I sent the cash!
It's not the money - I take full responsibility for that using the "caveat emptor" principle - it's more irritation at myself for falling for the carrot dangled in front of me.
He then sent me another message with even better stuff "for sale" - at least I'd the sense not to agree to that till the original non-existent purchase arrived.

I remember telling myself "probably a con but what if it isn't?"

I guess if he finds a dozen mugs like me then it's a nice little earner?

Just beware, one and all. ANDREW ASHMORE - just to reiterate the original message. He goes under "Andrew James" on Messenger.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 26, 2024 10:00 am 
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derby1884 wrote:
Just a warning to one and all - he's still at it.
Managed to con £40 out of me just before Xmas.
50+ years in the hobby and that's my first time. Ah well.

Wish I'd done a bit of checking on here before I sent the cash!
It's not the money - I take full responsibility for that using the "caveat emptor" principle - it's more irritation at myself for falling for the carrot dangled in front of me.
He then sent me another message with even better stuff "for sale" - at least I'd the sense not to agree to that till the original non-existent purchase arrived.

I remember telling myself "probably a con but what if it isn't?"

I guess if he finds a dozen mugs like me then it's a nice little earner?

Just beware, one and all. ANDREW ASHMORE - just to reiterate the original message. He goes under "Andrew James" on Messenger.


What is his modus operandi?
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Dorking



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 26, 2024 10:36 am 
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Sounds to me like the very simple one of finding mad keen collectors who have longstanding items they need for their collection then claiming to have them. People are so excited they have filled that gap (because as a collector you always hope that elusive item is out there and one day you will get it) that they don't process carefully that it could be a scam, the excitement takes over.

Take care peeps.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 26, 2024 12:04 pm 
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Hi Dorking been contacted by a guy called ANDREW James on Facebook says he has two Kettering programmes I have been looking for for years seams very sus to me his posts to me r very vague think he is just waiting for me to send he some money keeps saying he deffo has them but having trouble locating them at the mo will message me when he finds them ,asked him for photos all gone a bit quite ....I am reckoning it is the same guy.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 26, 2024 8:11 pm 
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Just had a reply from him - here it is verbatim:

"I've been ill pal I'll get it sorted for you pal"

I have his bank details - may drop a letter to his branch letting them know who they're dealing with.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 26, 2024 8:27 pm 
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I recently had a "not received" claim for one of my eBay sales (64 Charity Shield)

It was sent 1st Class Signed For but the tracking never progressed so the buyer claimed it "wasn't received"

I'm 99% sure he was lying and was just gaming the system to get a freebie

Anyway I refunded his £56 and got refunded £53 myself by Royal Mail so not really out of pocket but --- every communication from him was a one liner and every time he called me "pal" --- maybe the same guy?
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 27, 2024 1:06 am 
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colchestersid wrote:
I recently had a "not received" claim for one of my eBay sales (64 Charity Shield)

It was sent 1st Class Signed For but the tracking never progressed so the buyer claimed it "wasn't received"

I'm 99% sure he was lying and was just gaming the system to get a freebie

Anyway I refunded his £56 and got refunded £53 myself by Royal Mail so not really out of pocket but --- every communication from him was a one liner and every time he called me "pal" --- maybe the same guy?


Yes Colchester every one liner reply to me ends in pal has to be the same guy ....he has gone very quiet on me at the after me asking for photos etc.
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ndg1860



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 27, 2024 9:30 am 
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What is interesting is that we all know who it is and his MO, but we never do anything about it (me included). He is committing wire fraud, which is punishable in the UK by anything from a fine to 20 years or both. Would the police do anything about him? I rather think they have more pressing matters to deal with.

So, it is up to us to continue to try and warn as many as possible of these people.
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Blackjack



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 27, 2024 4:14 pm 
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the guy that did me kept calling me pal, numerous times so keep well away guys
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 28, 2024 10:36 am 
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I have recently had a dealing with this Clown and sussed hime pretty much straight away.
I posted my wants list from thes last few seasons on a F/Book Wants group and by a miracle he had a lot of the ones I wanted.
Now the alarm bells rang straight away as he was pal this and pal that.
Anyway cutting a long story short the required pictures of the items I wanted never appeared (Suprise Suprise).
Blocked immediately.
Be carfuel out there folks
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