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colchestersid · Joined: 08 Mar 2009 Posts: 756

Not sure what's going on here but this isn't a rare programme

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VINTAGE-IPSWICH-TOWN-F-C-OFFICIAL-PROGRAMME-v-Southend-1938-9-27th-August/173669694748?hash=item286f853d1c:g:NUEAAOSw7rlcAoFA

derby1884 · Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 8:53 pm Post subject:

No idea.

I just see the 93.3% rating.....
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colchestersid · Joined: 08 Mar 2009 Posts: 756

derby1884 wrote:

No idea.

I just see the 93.3% rating.....

...and in the listing he admits it probably is a reprint

se20blue · Joined: 21 Jul 2014 Posts: 889

I was the watcher that told him about the reproduction with a link to Prideofanglia.com to confirm it was not original but he has chosen not too and continue to con Ebay buyers.

se20blue · Joined: 21 Jul 2014 Posts: 889

Messaged the seller again referring him to this discussion and got the following reply

I appreciate this. The winning bidder is also someone who contacted me about it, saying he too thought it may be a reproduction. I have reported the issue to eBay. They suggested I message the bidder, telling him that I am happy to cancel the bid. I have no idea if its genuine or not. So I left it at the £50 starting bid, then this buyer decided to bid what he did. eBay have said for me to leave the auction, but be transparent, which I feel I have. I'm certainly not trying to con anyone!
Thanks again

Sean123 · Joined: 07 Dec 2018 Posts: 4

Hi everyone,
I am the lister here. Please let me be clear. I'm in no way trying to con anyone here. I added the transparent information on the above poster's request as I have no way of knowing its authenticity. There is absolutely nothing on it to suggest its a repro, but I put this note in anyway - for clear transparency. Then the winning bidder put in this extremely high bid - this is someone who also questioned it's authenticity with me. So I ask myself why? Was he trying to get it cheap? Why bid so much now? That's a big risk to take on for something that possibly isn't real.

So I am left more than a little confused. I've made eBay aware of what is going on as I am keen to remain transparent and be fair with everyone. I've even suggested to them that I cancel the auction, but they recommended that I leave it live and get in touch with the high bidder to offer to cancel his bid if he'd like me to. He hasn't responded... yet!

So I have been fair and clear with everyone about this - as you can see.

Hope you guys can now understand my side of this.

Thanks for listening.

S

grantham · Joined: 20 Mar 2009 Posts: 1062

I guess you got REALLY lucky Get My Coat

with 2 people bidding £12k as their first bid, that happens lots on ebay

The fact it happened within 2 minutes of each other 5 days into the auction, nothing iffy about that whatsoever Very Happy

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se20blue · Joined: 21 Jul 2014 Posts: 889

Sean123 wrote:

Hi everyone,
I am the lister here. Please let me be clear. I'm in no way trying to con anyone here. I added the transparent information on the above poster's request as I have no way of knowing its authenticity. There is absolutely nothing on it to suggest its a repro, but I put this note in anyway - for clear transparency. Then the winning bidder put in this extremely high bid - this is someone who also questioned it's authenticity with me. So I ask myself why? Was he trying to get it cheap? Why bid so much now? That's a big risk to take on for something that possibly isn't real.

So I am left more than a little confused. I've made eBay aware of what is going on as I am keen to remain transparent and be fair with everyone. I've even suggested to them that I cancel the auction, but they recommended that I leave it live and get in touch with the high bidder to offer to cancel his bid if he'd like me to. He hasn't responded... yet!

So I have been fair and clear with everyone about this - as you can see.

Hope you guys can now understand my side of this.

Thanks for listening.

S

If you look on the prideofanglia site as advised it will be obvious that it is a reproduction.

Sean123 · Joined: 07 Dec 2018 Posts: 4

I completely agree. It's all very bizarre. Hopefully the bidder will come back to me soon.

The first bidder must have bid £12k. I've no idea what this second bidder's highest bid is, but he clearly leads the bidding at £12.1k now. His bid could be £15k for all I know. Shocked

Sean123 · Joined: 07 Dec 2018 Posts: 4

se20blue wrote:

Sean123 wrote:

Hi everyone,
I am the lister here. Please let me be clear. I'm in no way trying to con anyone here. I added the transparent information on the above poster's request as I have no way of knowing its authenticity. There is absolutely nothing on it to suggest its a repro, but I put this note in anyway - for clear transparency. Then the winning bidder put in this extremely high bid - this is someone who also questioned it's authenticity with me. So I ask myself why? Was he trying to get it cheap? Why bid so much now? That's a big risk to take on for something that possibly isn't real.

So I am left more than a little confused. I've made eBay aware of what is going on as I am keen to remain transparent and be fair with everyone. I've even suggested to them that I cancel the auction, but they recommended that I leave it live and get in touch with the high bidder to offer to cancel his bid if he'd like me to. He hasn't responded... yet!

So I have been fair and clear with everyone about this - as you can see.

Hope you guys can now understand my side of this.

Thanks for listening.

S

If you look on the prideofanglia site as advised it will be obvious that it is a reproduction.

I didn't see anything that suggested it was obvious - I may have missed it, but I couldn't see it. I saw there were repros in 1988, of which this program was one, but that doesn't mean this one was too. Apologies if I've ,issed something there.

Leigh Treymaine · Joined: 02 Aug 2011 Posts: 259

BENT AND MUGS.

Dorking · Joined: 05 Feb 2010 Posts: 2510

I see the listing is still up. Disgraceful.

Auchinleckian · Forum Moderator Joined: 21 Nov 2008 Posts: 4352

Does it really matter though, it's probably two blokes having some fun at the seller's expense? If the bids went up withing five minutes of each other then that's exactly what it is I assume. Don't forget, there's no compunction to buy anything that you've bid for on ebay, and ebay can not force you to pay.

Ronsaunders · Joined: 11 Feb 2010 Posts: 296

Auchinleckian wrote:

Does it really matter though, it's probably two blokes having some fun at the seller's expense? If the bids went up withing five minutes of each other then that's exactly what it is I assume. Don't forget, there's no compunction to buy anything that you've bid for on ebay, and ebay can not force you to pay.

I agree entirely with your comments. Plus it is in the interests of eBay to let it end as they will, if nothing else, get a £1,200 fee , at least for a while even if the purported buyer does not pay and it will come out of the pocket of the seller.

williebhoy · Joined: 07 May 2011 Posts: 24

Free economy delivery LOL somehow I don't think it will be required

se20blue · Joined: 21 Jul 2014 Posts: 889

Both bids cancelled within ONE minute
12K to £50 to what a reproduction is worth 0.99p ?

pafcprogs · Joined: 24 Dec 2008 Posts: 1003 Location: Westerham Kent

Looks like he cancelled the bids himself according to the listing...

Now relisted for a tenner!

Ah well you have to admire the optimism

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Tawman · Joined: 04 Feb 2015 Posts: 48

Is this the same person who agreed to sell me the Plymouth v Portsmouth 1953 golden jubilee issue 2-3 years ago once he'd dug it out but then never bothered replying to me when I contacted him about it subsequently?

Tawman · Joined: 04 Feb 2015 Posts: 48

Is this the same person who agreed to sell me the Plymouth v Portsmouth 1953 golden jubilee issue 2-3 years ago once he'd dug it out but then never bothered replying to me when I contacted him about it subsequently?

Sean123 · Joined: 07 Dec 2018 Posts: 4

Err... No!!!