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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2022 5:24 am 
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An original Press Photo unmarked on the rear.

I believe it is 1949-50 and the opening match of the Season as well as the first match at Old Trafford after the War.

The action shows Jack Rowley shooting towards goal and probably scoring.

My question is in that opening match the opponents were Bolton Wanderers but i do not recognise their players, does anyone else?.

That season the only other side who played at United in White shirts were Derby County and they won 1-0, where as v Bolton United did win 3-0 and Rowley was one of the scorers.



Thanking in advance if any other member of the Forum can shed any light and confirm or dispell my original thoughts
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2022 11:48 am 
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I know it doesn’t fit with your dates Leslie, but player on the right looks very like Alf Ramsey. Could it be against Spurs, Jan 1951? The other player in white could be Harry Clarke?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2022 12:57 pm 
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My first thought was that it looks too muddy to be a season-opening August fixture.

Secondly, while Derby & Bolton may have been the only sides normally in white in 49/50, there are several "reds" who would have had to change - Liverpool (this isn't them), Arsenal, Charlton, Sunderland. Stoke City. And what colours did Weymouth wear in the cup game in Jan 1950?

As Pie suggests, Spurs is a possibility. It does look a bit like Sir Alf, and their white shirt would have a cockerel on the breast - this shirt does have a badge.

Leslie, if you would please email me the jpeg, I can ask around a few historians and collectors who are brilliant at this sort of thing.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2022 1:40 pm 
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Jack Rowley scoring the winner on the 13th January 1951 in a 2-1 victory over Spurs (who later that season won the title) ...
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2022 2:51 pm 
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Bingo Bazzer, I think you and Pie have cracked it! Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2022 2:58 pm 
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Flaming Pie wrote:
I know it doesn’t fit with your dates Leslie, but player on the right looks very like Alf Ramsey. Could it be against Spurs, Jan 1951? The other player in white could be Harry Clarke?


Many Thanks always great to find the correct answer! Thumbs Up
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Pete’s Picture Palace wrote:
My first thought was that it looks too muddy to be a season-opening August fixture.

Secondly, while Derby & Bolton may have been the only sides normally in white in 49/50, there are several "reds" who would have had to change - Liverpool (this isn't them), Arsenal, Charlton, Sunderland. Stoke City. And what colours did Weymouth wear in the cup game in Jan 1950?

As Pie suggests, Spurs is a possibility. It does look a bit like Sir Alf, and their white shirt would have a cockerel on the breast - this shirt does have a badge.

Leslie, if you would please email me the jpeg, I can ask around a few historians and collectors who are brilliant at this sort of thing.


Yes i think Tottenham in 1951 is the answer-I checked Weymouth Town-wore Green Shirts-Many Thanks Pete!
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2022 3:01 pm 
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BAZZERFOX42 wrote:
Jack Rowley scoring the winner on the 13th January 1951 in a 2-1 victory over Spurs (who later that season won the title) ...


Many Thanks i now tend to agree with you all-Thanks ! Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2022 3:58 pm 
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The image was used on the cover of the programme for United v Leeds, 27/01/1951

Where is also states it's United v Tottenham 13/01/1951
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2022 5:54 pm 
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grantham wrote:
The image was used on the cover of the programme for United v Leeds, 27/01/1951

Where is also states it's United v Tottenham 13/01/1951


Spot on! I never thought to look!! Well Done for spotting, but no Alf Ramsay in the photo.

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