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Flaming Pie
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Baltimore
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Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2020 6:10 pm
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What a great find, and equally great story!
Thanks for sharing... |
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Flaming Pie
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Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2020 6:57 pm
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Baltimore, currently reading the excellent book by Gary James Joe Mercer ‘ Football With A Smile’ 2010 edition. When l looked at the photos of Joe Snr , l realised that he was in the team line-up for Bebington Vics 1908,, but ,as l mentioned ,he was usually the team’s centre- half. What is unusual in the Joe Mercer story is that another former top player and later outstanding manager of that great post- war Wolves team,, Stan Cullis, were both in the Ellesmere Port Schoolboys team. Both went on to play for England as well. What are the chances of that happening! |
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Pete’s Picture Palace Forum Moderator
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Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2020 10:34 pm
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Reminds me of getting a photo of Ellis Rimmer, who scored 150 goals for Sheffield Wednesday in the 20's & 30's & won a few England caps. I didn't know much about him but when I looked him up I saw he played in the same Birkenhead schools team as Dixie Dean. |
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Raxfactor
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Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2020 5:17 pm
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I always thought Dixie Dean would speak as a scouser so it was interesting to find this clip of him speaking its only 25 secs but enlightening, as I don't detect any accent.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=whYOiiJP0t8 |
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Flaming Pie
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Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2020 9:55 pm
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Raxfactor,, l have seen that clip before . Dixie sounds more Lancashire than Merseyside. I remember him being asked in an interview( 1960s) if he was a scouser? ‘No, lm from Birkenhead , lm a wacker ‘ he replied . It’s only across a river, but there’s definately is a distinction between the Birkenhead and Liverpool accent, . If you think of say Paul O’ Grady from Birkenhead), ( mind you , l did know Dixie and he didn’t sound like him either ) and Jamie Carragher from Liverpool there’s a lot of difference in the accent, yet only the River Mersey divides them . All the Beatles sound totally different than Carragher and Stevie Gerrard,, l know John was from a middle- class background and put on the accent when he felt like,, , but the other were more or less from the same place. I think with the passing of time , the accent on the Liverpool side of the Mersey has now become even broader. I think accents are dynamic and forever changing. Then you have the peer group pressure factor with kids.at school,, If l don’t talk like them l might get picked on . lm writing this after a few bevies , but l still think I might get a dissertation out of this Thinking about it , l think the closest accent to Dixie’s from the world of football would be fellow Birkonian Ron Saunders. Probably one of the most underated managers of all time. The team he built at Aston Villa was outstanding. |
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