Valuation HELP required please

[stagmad]

Hi
Following on from my previous topic a couple of progs I would appreciate your knowledge of valuation if you have come across them at auction houses are
Villa v Blackburn 1906 original first ever villa news vol1 no 1
It is in fair condition for its age, being complete, good staples with little rust. But about 1-1.5 inches torn off the bottom of the back page. The spine has about a 1" tear at the top and bottom and the cover and back page are a little dirty.
Inside it is very clean with no writing anywhere.

The other is the Chelsea v real Madrid 71 final Greek edition
In pretty good condition excellent inside with no markings anywhere.
The cover has a 1" tear at the top of the spine and has a few marks down the spine with a couple of small bits of the top layer missing.
It’s hard to describe but it is like a card and if you imagine when you peel wallpaper off the wall you get some of the top layer comes off and the remainder is still on the wall. It’s a bit like that.
Any help on values or minimums/expected at auction would be appreciated
Thanks
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[holtie96]

Hi, I can only comment on the Chelsea Real Madrid Greek edition programme, or which I have a copy myself. This used to be one of the hardest programmes to obtain and used to be valued at as much as £400. However, a few have been coming up on Ebay over the past year and the price is around the £90-£160 bracket. I am afraid I can't tell you much more than that at the moment.

[1980Cossie]

I have seen a few Villa programmes from the first year of the Villa News & Record at auction before usually they sell for as little as £90 & upto £150, it really depends on the opponent, against Man Utd, Chelsea, Tottenham & Arsenal expect a lot lot more, Vol 1 No 1 against Blackburn i'd say £250-£300 but i'm no expert, Sportingold recently had Vol 1 No 9 against Bury at auction the reserve was £120 & it failed to sell but number 1 is always going to be worth more,

[JJPROGRAMMES]

Ref the Aston Villa v Blackburn programme, 2 things:

1) Has it got the "insert" / "Our Portrait Gallery" picture No1? If it dose this will significantly increase the value (not sure of the value but at a "guess" with the insert £300+).

2) Carefull! As there are reprints of this programme (reprinted in 1974), I`ve seen or presume I`ve seen reprints on ebay as in the listings they`ve said the bottom of the back page has been torn off, this is where the "reproduction" information is (+ a programme/reprint of 35 years is fairly easy to "ruffle up").

As for the Chelsea programme I agree with holtie96, their value has well dropped over the last couple of years, your probably best off keeping it or contacting Sportingold.

[stagmad]

Hi
Thanks for the information,to answer your questions yes it does have the portrait gallery no 1 of Howard Spencer the captain(although it is effectively page 3 rather than an insert) I have seen the re-print and understand where you are coming from but you only have to look at this to know its 100 years old and not 35 the colour/texture of the paper etc that no amount of crumpling up could match.
Anyway thanks again for your help
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WE WILL BE BACK SOON

[Kickoff3pm]

http://www.football4sale.co.uk/shop/product_info.php?products_id=3408

Proberbly in need of a price update but we sold a another with a pen mark on the cover for 399 so we've not been in any hurry. Condition is the key with these ones.