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Rocky



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 5:16 pm 
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As John (Auchinleckian) rightly states in a recent post ‘there’s a wealth of knowledge out there just waiting to be tapped into’. It would be great if an archive/database could be set up for each club which covers certain criteria and questions.

In John’s case he asked the question ‘What is your clubs rare season of issue?’ In my case I would be asking for your clubs list of postponed games where a programme has been issued for both the postponed game and the rearranged game.

I'm sure that there are a lot of collectors out there who think they have full season collections but are unaware that programmes have been issued for a postponed game. I’m also sure that some of us may even be unaware that a game was originally postponed.

I thought I had full season collections but info kindly provided by Pompeypete has proved that I haven’t. The wants list increases. Sad

Any info that will add to my list of programmes issued for postponed Middlesbrough games will be greatly appreciated.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 6:23 pm 
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Here's a list of Burnley home games postponed since 1962 - I'll expand the list to show if a programme exists for the original game and whether or not a new programme was produced for the rearranged game.

v West Bromwich Albion - 22/12/62
v Birmingham City - 19/1/63
v Leicester City - 18/2/64
v Tottenham Hotspur - 14/3/64
v Manchester City - 22/2/69
v Southampton - 20/12/69
v Southampton - 17/2/70
v Portsmouth - 20/1/73
v Sheffield United - 20/1/79
v Huddersfield Town - 21/3/81
v Chesterfield - 28/12/81
v Preston North End - 9/3/82
v Queens Park Rangers - 12/2/83
v Sheffield United - 17/9/83
v Hull City - 14/1/84
v Derby County - 26/1/85
v Aldershot - 11/1/86
v Darlington - 28/1/86
v Crewe Alexandra - 8/2/86
v Torquay United - 10/1/87
v Torquay United - 26/3/88
v Carlisle United - 28/2/89
v Chesterfield - 13/2/90
v Blackpool - 2/12/91
v Bournemouth - 28/12/92
v Rotherham United - 22/2/94
v Charlton Athletic - 10/1/95
v Oxford United - 1/1/96
v Bristol Rovers - 27/1/96
v Chesterfield - 1/1/97
v Blackpool - 3/3/98
v Norwich City - 28/10/00
v Bradford City - 1/1/01
v Bradford City - 19/2/01
v Wimbledon - 20/3/04
v Liverpool - 7/1/05
v Stoke City - 1/1/07
v Norwich City - 20/1/07
v Queens Park Rangers - 25/8/07
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ToffeeDan



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 7:48 pm 
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To the best of my knowledge - Everton post-war

Definitely issued:
14 Jan 61 Aston Villa (very common)
29 Dev 65 Nottm Forest (rare)
13 Jan 68 Fulham (very common)
28 Dec 68 Wolves (rare)
15 Mar 69 Newcastle (very rare)
4 Dec 76 Norwich
3 Jan 77 Spurs
2 Dec 78 West Brom (may have been abandoned game)
19 Jan 80 Stoke (cover was used for following game as well)
23 Jan 88 Wimbledon
30 Dec 00 Leeds
3 Feb 73 Norwich (was played 17 Apr with insert in programme)

Not confirmed but several below are understood to exist:

Mar 15 1946 Leeds
27 Dec 52 Lincoln (I understand only in Bound sets)
26 Feb 55 Aston Villa unknown
Sep 28 57 Blackpool Not in TP
26 Dec 62 Arsenal Not in TP
12 Jan 63 Fulham Not in TP
2 Feb Bolton Not in TP
23 Jan 65 Liverpool
10 Dec 66 Sunderland Not in TP
10 Feb 68 Leicester
18 Feb 69 Leeds (also postponed 11 Feb to accommodate earlier round)
22 Feb 69 Arsenal

TP = Toffee Pages

Footnotes on other issued programmes (date of issue/game)
14 Apr 48 Everton v Chelsea was rescheduled from 7 Feb - no programme is known for this original date
4 May 49 Everton v Wolves - some programmes for this fixture are dated 27 Apr (another match was played on that date)
23 Mar 55 Everton v Huddersfield was originally scheduled for 16 Mar 55 and delayed
13 Feb 56 Everton v Chelsea - dated 1955 in error
13 Apr 57 Everton v Cardiff- some are dated 13th May 57
27 Dec 60 Everton v Burnley - some teamsheets were also issued after programmes sold out
15 Apr 61 Everton v Cardiff - copies exist with blank pages
12 Feb 69 Everton v Bristol R (FAC) was postponed from 8 Feb 69 but dated only 12 Feb
27 Jan 74 Everton v West Brom - teamsheet was issued as a form of ticket to accommodate Sunday trading laws
Mar 18 74 Nottm Forest v Newcastle (Replayed FAC Tie) match ended in draw and replayed at Goodison Mar 20 (no programme issued for final game)
30 Jan 83 Everton v Shrewsbury - teamsheet was issued as a form of ticket to accommodate Sunday trading laws.
Feb 27 91 Everton v Liverpool (FA Cup 5th Rd 2nd replay) - misprinted copies exist


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Rocky



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 8:21 pm 
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Good stats above for Burnley and Everton.

Here is a list of MIDDLESBROUGH’S known postponed Home & Away programmes, with the postponed programme listed first & the rearranged one second.

I’m sure there are more, (Man City 63/4 away? & Fulham 57/8 away?) so any additions or corrections to this list will be greatly appreciated.

POSTPONED HOMES

57/8
LEYTON ORIENT
8/2/58
19/3/58

58/9
GRIMSBY
3/1/59
11/3/59

60/1
LEYTON ORIENT
23/12/60
14/3/61

61/2
NEWCASTLE
26/12/61
7/3/62

65/6
PORTSMOUTH
1/10/65
26/10/65

68/9
BRISTOL CITY
2/11/68
3/12/68

78/9
DERBY
30/12/78
13/3/79

79/0
ARSENAL
2/2/80
19/5/80

84/5
OLDHAM
26/12/84
5/2/85

86/7
GILLINGHAM
31/1/87
28/4/87

90/1
WEST BROM
8/12/90
19/2/91

91/2
OXFORD
21/12/91
15/4/92

91/2
PETERBORO LC
22/1/92
12/2/92

92/3
CHELSEA FA
3/1/93
13/1/93

95/6
WIMBLEDON FA
27/1/96
7/2/96
WRAP AROUND

99/0
COVENTRY
29/12/99
19/2/00

02/3
NEWCASTLE
1/2/03
5/3/03

03/4
ARSENAL CCC S/F
28/1/04
3/2/04


ABANDONED HOMES

58/9
BIRMINGHAM FA
10/1/59
24/1/59

74/5
LEICESTER
24/9/74
10/12/79

94/5
BARNSLEY
2/1/95
14/3/95


POSTPONED AWAYS

60/1
PORTSMOUTH
3/12/60
28/1/61

62/3
PORTSMOUTH
19/1/63
18/5/63

65/6
LEYTON ORIENT
26/12/65
18/4/66

65/6
NORWICH
15/1/66
27/4/66

69/0
ASTON VILLA
27/12/69
8/4/70

76/7
LEICESTER
3/1/77
15/3/77

78/9
MAN CITY
1/1/79
24/3/79

79/0
NORWICH
19/1/80
27/2/80

NOTTS FOREST
15/12/79
16/2/80 (insert only in original prog)

80/1
IPSWICH
29/11/80
17/2/81

89/0
BLACKBURN
7/10/89
21/11/89

90/1
OLDHAM
9/2/91
30/4/91

91/2
SHEFF WED FAC
25/1/92
4/2/92 (insert only in original prog)

93/4
LEICESTER
26/2/94
12/3/94

96/7
BLACKBURN
21/12/96
16/4/97

05/6
BOLTON
28/12/05
3/5/06
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foxes1



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 8:43 pm 
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ToffeeDan wrote:
To the best of my knowledge - Everton post-war

Definitely issued:
14 Jan 61 Aston Villa (very common)
29 Dev 65 Nottm Forest (rare)
13 Jan 68 Fulham (very common)
28 Dec 68 Wolves (rare)
15 Mar 69 Newcastle (very rare)
4 Dec 76 Norwich
3 Jan 77 Spurs
2 Dec 78 West Brom (may have been abandoned game)
19 Jan 80 Stoke (cover was used for following game as well)
23 Jan 88 Wimbledon
30 Dec 00 Leeds
3 Feb 73 Norwich (was played 17 Apr with insert in programme)

Not confirmed but several below are understood to exist:

Mar 15 1946 Leeds
27 Dec 52 Lincoln (I understand only in Bound sets)
26 Feb 55 Aston Villa unknown
Sep 28 57 Blackpool Not in TP
26 Dec 62 Arsenal Not in TP
12 Jan 63 Fulham Not in TP
2 Feb Bolton Not in TP
23 Jan 65 Liverpool
10 Dec 66 Sunderland Not in TP
10 Feb 68 Leicester
18 Feb 69 Leeds (also postponed 11 Feb to accomodate earlier round)
22 Feb 69 Arsenal

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Footnotes on other issued programmes (date of issue/game)
14 Apr 48 Everton v Chelsea was rescheduled from 7 Feb - no programme is known for this original date
4 May 49 Everton v Wolves - some programmes for this fixture are dated 27 Apr (another match was played on that date)
23 Mar 55 Everton v Huddersfield was originally scheduled for 16 Mar 55 and delayed
13 Feb 56 Everton v Chelsea - dated 1955 in error
13 Apr 57 Everton v Cardiff- some are dated 13th May 57
27 Dec 60 Everton v Burnley - some teamsheets were also issued after programmes sold out
15 Apr 61 Everton v Cardiff - copies exist with blank pages
12 Feb 69 Everton v Bristol R (FAC) was postponed from 8 Feb 69 but dated only 12 Feb
27 Jan 74 Everton v West Brom - teamsheet was issued as a form of ticket to accommodate Sunday trading laws
Mar 18 74 Nottm Forest v Newcastle (Replayed FAC Tie) match ended in draw and replayed at Goodison Mar 20 (no programme issued for final game)
30 Jan 83 Everton v Shrewsbury - teamsheet was issued as a form of ticket to accommodate Sunday trading laws.
Feb 27 91 Everton v Liverpool (FA Cup 5th Rd 2nd replay) - misprinted copies exist


Leicester v Everton - Postponed dated 22/01/55 - Definitely Exists
Leicester v Everton - Postponed dated 19/01/63 - Never come across one of these.
Leicester v Everton - Postponed dated 02/04/66 - Definitely Exists
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grantham



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 9:04 pm 
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As per a previous post, I am currently building this archive and I look forward to ALL of your input once tested and live, the admin has been tested now and work has begun on the frontend.

What I personally would find helpful is why games were abandoned for whatever reason, not so much interested in the postponed details as that is quite widespread, but abandonments are quite rare.

Also games that took place but the actual stats and result of the match didn't matter, and for whatever reason the game was replayed and a new programme was issued.


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Footyfan



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 9:07 pm 
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List of Leeds United Postponed Games 1956 to 1975:
By no means definitive but I can guarantee the list as I have all the programmes in my collection.

HOMES

1957/58 Arsenal (Feb) played in March - new prog issued.

1960/61 Luton (Nov) played in March - new prog issued.

1968/69 Forest (March) played in April - new prog issued.

AWAYS

1961/62 Scunthorpe (Dec) played in February - prog reissued but with postponed issue cover

1965/66 Northampton (Dec) played in March - new prog issued.

1968/69 Forest (Aug) - abandoned - replayed February - ne w prog issued.

1968/69 WBA (Dec) played in April - new prog issued.

1972/73 WBA (Dec) - played in March - new prog issued.


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Footyfan



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 9:27 pm 
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RockyBoro

I believe you can add:

1962/63 Huddersfield vs Boro (22 Dec 1962) to your list.


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Rocky



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 9:29 pm 
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Grantham

BORO ABANDONED HOMES

58/9
BIRMINGHAM FA
10/1/59
abandoned after 60 mins icy pitch

74/5
LEICESTER
24/9/74
abandoned after 29 mins floodlight failure

94/5
BARNSLEY
2/1/95
abandoned at half time icy pitch
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ToffeeDan



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 9:49 pm 
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ToffeDan

18 Feb 69 Everton vs Leeds definitely exists - I have uit.

RockyBoro

I believe you can add:

1962/63 Huddersfield vs Boro (22 Dec 1962) to your list.


Sorry, I should have said yes, I do know it exists. Not seen very often.

BTW that was a league game put back as the Bristol Rovers game (FAC) was delayed. So it was scheduled the next week and then postponed, as you said, until April.

WRT Leicester et al - I am only really familiar with Everton aways in 1960s. League games as follows that I have:

1964-65 W B A 28th Dec 64
1965-66 Leicester Waterlogged pitch (Lge) PP - played 2 Apr 66
1969-70 Sunderland Rare - February I think
1969-70 Tottenham Rare PP
1969-70 Tottenham Rare - Abandoned Waterlogged Pitch

Those that are much harder to locate
1961-62 Arsenal Feb 27th 62 very very rare, imperfect copy sold recently for £480 so obviously exists in some form
1961-62 Bolton W not listed PP (played 4 Apr 62)
1962-63 Liverpool Winter Freeze PP 9/2/63 (played 8/4/63)
1968-69 Leicester 15th Feb 69
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foxes1



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 8:06 am 
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List of other Abandoned games involving Liecester City, these are additonal to the one mentioned by Rocky-boro

Leic v Bristol C - F A Cup - 28/01/61 (Waterlogged pitch) replayed 30/01/61
Nott'm Forest v Leic - Lge - 09/12/67 (Icy pitch) replayed 19/03/68
Leic v Soton - Lge - 15/10/83 (Waterlogged pitch) replayed 30/11/83
Reading v Leic - Lge - 01/01/03 (Waterloggd pitch) replayed 28/01/03
Nottm Forest v Leic - Coca-Cola Cup - 28/08/07 (Clarke of Leic taken ill at half-time) replayed 18/09/07.

Burton Alb v Leic - F A Cup - This game was originally played on 05/01/85 at the Baseball Grd with Leic winning 6-1, it was ordered to be re-played at Highfield Rd behind closed doors on 16/01/85 after crowd trouble marred the original game.

Progs exist for all abandoned games & replayed games, but the Bristol City replayed game consists of a single sheet.
The Burton game at Highfield Rd a single sheet does exist but I'm not sure if this was produced by either club or some chancer typing one out and photocopying them.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 10:09 am 
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Just a quick couple of notes from my collection. This is in no way definitive!!

LIVERPOOL
Liverpool v Cologne 64-5 European Cup (3-3-65 abandoned due to fog, separate programme for refixed game 17-3-65)
Liverpool v Everton 96-7 (League match was postponed- a 4 page wrap-around supplement was included for the for re-arranged match)
Liverpool v Wolves 78-9 Separate programmes for postponed league game in Dec and refixed game in March
Liverpool v Aston Villa 78-9 I have a programme which I have marked as “(Jan)” which presumably means that game was refixed!
Wasn't the winter of 78-9 particularly bad? There are likely to be numerous postponements. Likewise 62-3.

FRIENDLY
Shamrock Rovers v Sunderland 09-08-2008 Match never played due to waterlogged pitch- a 2in1 programme for this match and the league game v Finn Harps exists

IRISH
Monaghan United v EMFA 85-6 (First season in the league for boh clubs). I have programmes for league games dated February and March
Shamrock Rovers v Waterford 2007 May (abandoned due to dangerous floodlights! Separate programme for refixed match in November)
Shelbourne v Bohemians 2003 November (essentially a league title decider- this was the programme for the original postponed match in October with a 4 page wrap-around)

OTHER
Barnsley v Sheff Utd 79-80 (Played March- programme for postponed February match with 4pg wraparound)
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 11:39 am 
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Pompey homes postponed
wolves 1/2/47 .................. ..3/5/47
arsenal 21/2/48.................. ..21/4/48
aston villa 15/1/55 27/4/55
sunderland 23/2/57............... .1/5/57
newcastle 18/2/59.................. 11/3/59
Bristol Rov 22/10//60................19/4/61
middlesbro' 3/12/60................ 28/1/61
middlesbro' 19/1/63.................18/5/63
oxford 26/12/69................ 24/1/70
bristol city 26/12/70.............. 10/3/71
preston 9/1/82.................. 6/4/82
leicester 3/194 & 15/2/94 24/4/94
millwall 11/2/95 ................. 15/3/95 re issued with wrap around cover
norwich 31/10/98.......................10/11/98
wimbledon 1/1/02 & 26/1/02 .......12/3/02
arsenal 25/3/06
man city 10/1/09

Programmes were issued for all the above dates as was arsenal & man city, Its just I don't have the rearranged dates to hand. [/list]
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 11:58 am 
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Pompey Away Postponed.
Sheff utd 7/12/46
10/5/47

man utd 21/12/46
17/5/47

fulham 17/2/51
2/5/51

sheff utd 26/2/55
2/5/55

sheff wed 22/12/56
9/4/57

bury 26/12/63
13/4/64

swansea 24/03/64
21/4/64 ..........................orignal programme re issued

middlesbro 1/10/65
26/10/65

oxford 26/12/68
5/3/69

burnley 20/1/73
20/3/73

nott'm forest 1/12/73
26/3/74

crystal palace 29/12/76
22/2/77

swindon 15/1/77
17/5/77

lincoln 18/2/77
15/3/77

hereford 17/2/79
7/5/79

darlington 17/3/79
11/5/79 ......................re issued with yellow single sheet

port vale 20/1/79 & 6/3/79
21/3/79........................programme re issued on each occasion with white single sheet on both dates.

swindon 19/12/81
23/2/82

wimbledon 16/3/82
18/5/82

stoke 22/3/86
22/4/82...........................programme re issued with single sheet supplement

wba 7/3/87
29/4/87................ programme re issued with supplement

grimsby 30/12/2000
27/1/2001...........programme re issued with wrapaaround cover

Well thats all folks, any questions or additions please PM me.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 12:07 pm 
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For interest pompey's only abandoned match was
home v Aston Villa 15/1/1955.

Pompey were 2-1 down with only 11 minutes left.

Thick fog descended in the 2nd half, the referee had no alternative but to end the match.

The re played match ended in a 2-2 draw.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 12:40 pm 
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Seen two games mentioned on this thread that I was on the way to when cancelled

- Portsmouth - it was chucking it down and we were on the outskirts of the City. I have never cheered so much as we were fearing that we were going to be like drowned rats in their away end! Drove to Portsmouth and back for a sandwich!!

- Burnley - was just after the Hatfield train crash so there were speed restrictions in place. I got home at 11.15pm having spend over 14 hours on a train. I could not get to the re-arranged game so it cost me my "complete" season that year! Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 12:40 pm 
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I have the Lincoln home programme from 52/3, dated 27/12/52, it has come from a bound volume.

As far as other Everton aways of postponed games, these are the ones i know about

45/6 Bury 29/8/45 Abandoned
53/4 Oldham 2/1/54
54/5 Leicester 22/1/55
54/5 Man Utd 15/2/55 Friendly, i think only from bound volume
56/7 Bolton 22/12/56
60/1 Tranmere 12/12/60 League Cup, 4 page supp supplied with replayed game
61/2 Arsenal 27/2/62 - Does exist, I have a good copy, didnt realise it was so rare
64/5 WBA 28/12/64
65/6 Leicester 2/4/66
68/9 Leicester 15/2/69 - Never seen this anywhere
69/70 Sunderland 7/2/70
69/70 Spurs 29/11/69 Postponed, 17/12/69 Postponed
72/3 WBA 20/1/73
74/5 Luton 4 page cover added to original programme for replayed game
76/7 Leeds 1/1/77
78/9 Bolton 1/1/79 Abandoned, replayed 3/4/79
80/1 WBA 20/12/80
82/3 Tranmere Liv Sen Cup 22/12/82
84/5 Coventry 9/2/85, insert added to same programme for replayed game 26/5/85
85/6 Spurs FAC 16/2/86
96/7 Liverpool 4 page insert added to original 20/10 dated, played 20/11

Not sure if this a complete list
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 12:53 pm 
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Rocky Boro - re your list of postponed matches, not sure where this one fits in but I have a programme for Middlesbrough v Lucerne Wed 7 Oct 1959 "Special Floodlight Attraction" 12 pages, price fourpence with "CANCELLED" stamped across the cover!
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 3:18 pm 
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78/9 Bolton 1/1/79 Abandoned


I went to this game.. Cold cold cold. Peter Reid (then with Bolton) broke kneebone (I think?) - abandoned at h-t 1-1. Almost the entire day's football was postponed that day bar about 3 games... Driving back from Burnden Park took about 4 hours to Liverpool.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 7:24 pm 
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There are far too many Carlisle postponements to list - I'll send in my spreadsheet if a database is developed though.
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