Adriano

[Blackjack]

Did anyone see the goal in the Champion League last night that he scored for Shakter Donetsk? Would you be happy if your team scored 1 in those circumstances?

[sharrowblade]

Blackjack wrote:

Did anyone see the goal in the Champion League last night that he scored for Shakter Donetsk? Would you be happy if your team scored 1 in those circumstances?

I think you would have to ask an Arsenal fan.
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[holtie96]

Just sums the game up at the moment
Footage below
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[Senior82]

I watched the whole game, it was appalling. The weirdest thing was after that, when half the Shakhtar players were happy to let the Danes score but the other half weren't!

Overall Shakhtar would have still won anyway, even if they'd given them a free goal, but it was very bizarre. You can't even say that it's a Brazilian thing because the 'through ball' was from another Brazilian attempting to kick the ball back. I just don't understand why he did it.
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[seand]

The laws of the game are a bit unclear on this for me (google football laws of the game).

Law 12 states that a player should be booked for "unsporting behaviour", which this clearly was, but unsporting behavious is defined within certain specifc criteria (reckless tackle, holding etc) and a list of three 'other examples', none of which cover this. It's not clear if the ref has absolute discretion to decide what is and isn't unsporting. But feck it, book him and give a free out! Clearly the players had agreed with each other and presumably the ref that the ball would be played back to the keeper.

Simple soltion number two... contest drop ball like the good old days!

[sharot1999]

Dreadful sportmanship, which has quite rightly been charged by UEFA. However, reading the above posts, it is not easy to see under which statute Adriano has been charged with unsportsmanlike behaviour.....

[CelticViking]

I too watched the match on tv here in Denmark . The danes where really anoyed about it and the football Summarises Brian Laudrup, Jesper Grønkjær and Preben Elkjæer were all dumfounded and said itwas dreadful sportsmanship. Though that said Shakter Donesk where the better team
The next day the headlines in the paper read SHAKTER GROTESK (Grotesque)

I do recall a similar incident in a Arsenal -Sheffield United game and a Yeovil Town match , but l can not remember when and who they palyed

[sharrowblade]

CelticViking wrote:

I do recall a similar incident in a Arsenal -Sheffield United game

Don't we all.

Of course, going off at a slight tangent, future situations can and should be avoided, its about time FIFA scrapped these absurd scenarios where players go down injured, play gets called to a halt, whilst the ball is still in play (head injuries aside). It is blatant cheating, its no coincidence it is usually the team winning but are under pressure who are the culprits. Its just an easy way to break up the momentum of the opposition and time waste.

Anyone who witnessed the recent Northern ireland - Azerbaijan I think would testify to that.

Lets cut the time wasters and injury feigners out of the game.

Play on, they'll soon be on their feet.

In Rugby league, the play continues until there is a legitimate stoppage and if those boys go down injured....they are injured.
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[Fishy]

CelticViking wrote:

I do recall a similar incident in a Arsenal -Sheffield United game and a Yeovil Town match , but l can not remember when and who they palyed

The Yeovil one may be the game v Plymouth Argyle a few seasons ago in the CC Cup (24/8/2004).
I was at the match, the Yeovil player scored (ungentlemanly but within the rules), but Gary Johnson (Yeovils manager) told his players to let Argyle go up the pitch unopposed and score from the restart!
Fantastic sportsmanship that wronged what most saw as ungentlemanly conduct.

[CelticViking]

Louis Nielsen is a nationwide Opticians here in Denmark and today was a really good advertisement in one of the Danish national papers where there was a picture of Adriano and a caption which said Adriano should have gone to Louis Nielsn !!!!!!!!!

[goonerboy]

as an arsenal fan i can say no i wouldn't/wasn't happy. Although in our case we did offer a replay immediately after the match however the cup tie was nicely poised before the kanu incident and the match was ruined after that and sheff utd were never going to win the second match. I wish we would have allowed a walk in to even the game up immediately.

I thought millwall were involved in a similar incident to the yeovil/plymouth game and was doing a quick search on deliberate allowed goals and came up with this amazing story:


"There have been plenty of protest own goals scored – 149 in one game, in fact, but the target of the players' ire was the referee. In 2002 AS Adema beat the reigning Madagascan champions Stade Olympique de L'Emyrne 149-0 after SOE's players spent the whole game putting the ball into their own net during the final game of a round-robin title play-off. In the preceding game, SOE had been put out of the running for the title when the referee awarded a dubious late penalty with which DSA Antananarivo equalised."

[MATT RUSH]

As a referee of 22 years standing (I qualified on this day in 1990) in local and county football , I can only give you the match referees position on this and the similar incidents quoted on this thread.
When the referee restarts play with a dropped ball, the ball is in play when it touches the ground. Play then continues until the ball goes out of play or the game is stopped by the referee. In this instance the ball was in play and a goal was scored, there had been no offence, so the ref has no option other than to allow a goal. He has no power to judge what is morally right or wrong as the laws of the game have not been infringed.
At local level it happens quite often that players try to wrestle the ball off each other, so they can pass the ball back to the opposition and then wallow in the round of applause that subsequently follows. You dont see that in the proffesional game