Wimbledon fan MP says Milton Keynes 'should drop Dons'

[Tynie Topics]

James wrote:

Ruud Van Driver wrote: Have to say that if Leeds United moved to the moon I'd still support them...but I'd only go to away games But would they still be Leeds United????? They could be called Moon FC...

I doubt there would be much atmosphere.......
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[Ruud Van Driver]

Tynie Topics wrote:

James wrote: Ruud Van Driver wrote: Have to say that if Leeds United moved to the moon I'd still support them...but I'd only go to away games But would they still be Leeds United????? They could be called Moon FC... I doubt there would be much atmosphere.......

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[Tynie Topics]

max761 wrote:

Really? I posted the photos, I offered to find out from the ordinary people what they think on this issue. And in response I hear only the flood. With you is not interesting to talk

Photos mean nothing, absolutely nothing.

We all know some Wimbledon fans followed the club to MK, about 150. Most have now stopped and some have returned to AFCW.

It is easy to buy Wimbledon shirts and scarves on the internet.

I am not interested in discussing with you on a subject you know little about. I attended 250+ games between 1989-2001, you attended 0.

That "fact" sums up what you know.
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[The SFC Chris]

max761 wrote:

The SFC Chris wrote: As far as I'm concerned, the truth is that the football club moved from Wimbledon to Milton Keynes, therefore breaking any ties they had with Wimbledon ... AFC Wimbledon were formed to replace that team which had diseappeared, and so they rightfully have all the history of Wimbledon. well the truth is that Wimbledon has moved from the area of Wimbledon in 1992 so what does that mean? What we have ceased to be Wimbledon in 1992?

There's a massive difference between a few miles down the road and Milton Keynes.

[The SFC Chris]

max761 wrote:

Tynie Topics wrote: In your survey, did you ask how many attended matches in Milton Keynes? you do not understand - I did not ask the fans - the ordinary people on the street. But you can ask and it is - no problem! Are you ready to hear the "Voice of the People"? Although I can ask ... example of fans here - Tynie Topics wrote: That is what you have been saying all through this discussion Really? I posted the photos, I offered to find out from the ordinary people what they think on this issue. And in response I hear only the flood. With you is not interesting to talk

So some MK fans want to show people they are apparently more than a franchise. Them wearing Wimbledon shirts/scarves doesn't mean they used to support Wimbledon or that Wimbledon and MK Dons are the same.

[MaccProgrammesWanted]

Max knows absolutely nothing about the situation with Wimbledon - even though he thinks he does.

How can anybody form opinions on this matter when they had never even been to watch Wimbledon FC?

He's decided to pick a team and unfortunately ended up with Mk 'Dons'. Now he's taken a load of false opinions from the MK forums or a very small section of deluded MK 'Dons' fans.

For me the history and identity of a club lies mostly with the fans - Barely anybody from the original Wimbledon FC watch MK 'Dons' and the majority watch AFCW - MK are just a franchise with thousands of new supporters from a different town.

Therefore they have nothing to do with the original Wimbledon FC.
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[ashburton-grove]

I think Arsenal should be stripped of their name as they don't play at the Plumstead Armoury any more and due to their greedy corporation moved from the South of the river to the North where their fans weren't.

Football is all about money now, not fans, not history nor loyalty.
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[Ruud Van Driver]

3,000 kilometers??

Wasn't aware there was another planet so close!
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[MaccProgrammesWanted]

I see no point in even trying to make you see where you are wrong.

You really are just a deluded idiot.
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[Tynie Topics]

max761 wrote:

Based on what you've decided? you did not see me not talking ... foolish to make such statements - you do not know what kind of work I have done, how seriously studied the issue, which people I met in AFCW and MKD. I am a journalist and know how to conduct investigations))) I agree that you are comfortable to think that I do not know for moving the club ... no problem - I suggested solution to the question - ask the people - the residents of Wimbledon - this is an honest solution. In response, I hear only a silly mockery of Tynie Topics.

You're a journalist and know how to conduct investigations? by talking to a few people in the street? seriously? is that the level of journalistic standards in Ukraine?

Who at AFCW have you met? how many AFCW fans have you spoken to? have you spoken to anyone at the Dons Trust? how many AFCW games have you attended? in fact, just what sort of "investigating" have you done to conclude that MK Dons are the "real" Wimbledon?

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It is difficult to understand and hard to believe - but I support the club most of my life - and it does not matter how many games I had. Tynie Topics saw 250 games? An impressive achievement considering that he lives in England. And I to see a game of my club have to overcome the 3,000 kilometers.

You live 3,000 kms away and have never attended a Wimbledon game, yet you TELL US that you know better?

Macc summed you up perfectly, a deluded idiot.
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[Posh1959]

Lol he seems to be like any other FC Franchise supporter----deluded lol-is this guy for real or just trying to wind people up

[jacklong]

Can i just add:

Dons has nothing to do with Wimbledon.. If you know your history which so many of you apparently do, the nickname the Dons is actually related to the group/organisation of who founded the original Wimbledon, The same organisation who in fact formed Aberdeen FC, The original club nicknamed the Dons.
So the fact MK Dons use the nickname the dons has no relevance to location. MK Dons although building their own history, still never deny the fact they we're born from Wimbledon FC, Who were formed by the Dons therefore use the nickname the dons.

Makes pretty good sense to me.

AFC Wimbledon was created by fans who bailed on their club in the tough times, where we're all these AFC Wimbledon fans when Wimbledon gates dropped by thousands when they got relegated, when they really needed the money to survive?

The fact of the matter is, had Wimbledon not relocated to MK for survival then the club would of officially died. Which is the worst possible scenario.

If any of you actually went to a MK game you would see many of the crowd still wear wimbledon scarves and shirts and hats. These are the actual fans who stuck with Wimbledon through the tough times and when announced they would move to survive, followed their team. These are the real fans!

Finally, drop the dons campaign.... supported and leaded by councillors who also approved plough lane to be demolished for houses. Drop the dons campaign launched due to MK using the Dons and not being in Wimbledon.....
The most ironic thing is that AFC Wimbledon do not play in Wimbledon, even worse Wimbledon Guardian who launched said campaign are not even based in Wimbledon.

This whole subject will never settle, never be lived down and worst of all from the people trying to get involved causing a lot of embarrassment!

MK Dons.... always will be!

[Drvonshineck]

jacklong wrote:

If any of you actually went to a MK game you would see many of the crowd still wear wimbledon scarves and shirts and hats. These are the actual fans who stuck with Wimbledon through the tough times and when announced they would move to survive, followed their team. These are the real fans!

No these are corporate fans or fans of success.

The club was stolen and moved away from the real fans.

If your hypothesis is correct then where does AFC Wimbledon get it's fan base, surly they would have no supporters as the "real" fans head up to Milton Keynes every fortnight?

[Tynie Topics]

jacklong wrote:

The same organisation who in fact formed Aberdeen FC, The original club nicknamed the Dons.

Which is of course a pile of manure (Pittodrie), you do know the River Don runs through Aberdeen don't you? You do also know they were formed many years after Wimbledon?

On that basis, I'll ignore the rest of your nonsense, no doubt your Bulgarian friend encouraged you to stir this shite again which has already been covered ad infitum (and he never did reply to my last post).

Wimbledon Football club would have survived if they hadn't been run into the ground and stolen, yet we have a Franchise fan trying to tell everyone otherwise (which appears to be a theme running through this thread).

Do yourselves a favour, drop "Dons" and find your own identity, it might help you to rid yourselves of the abject shame associated with your club.
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[Dorking]

It'll always be a quirk of history.

Hopefully one day AFC Wimbledon will get their own ground (ie move out of Kingstonian's) closer to the Wimbledon area and be the League 1 or 2 club they should be.

Wimbledon FC were victims of their own success really - the club were too successful and the size of the home support never matched their success (was it about 15 consecutive seasons in the top flight?) although they were very successful at giving Man Utd/Chelsea circa 10,000 away tickets if they wanted them!

It's not that dissimilar to Wigan really. Crowds of 6,000 in the season they gained promotion to the top flight, and I suspect when they eventually go down their crowds will go back to under 10k again. When Dave Whelan passes away, unless they get a foreign owner, then the lowest divisions of the league beckon again.