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STEEL_CITY_SMOGGY · Joined: 09 Aug 2009 Posts: 533

It has been left too late now and I think the FA will play it safe (ie. they may get a small points deduction which still leaves them top and doesn't affect any other placings)
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sharrowblade · Posted: Tue May 03, 2011 3:00 pm Post subject:

very interesting.......one of the main problems is that none of us are privy to any information. We simply don't know the facts. Theories are fuelled by the nation's media. Observers, like us, can only speculate if they so wish.

The fact that QPR have won the league, and have powerful and influential owners which Scudamore and his cronies can't wait to welcome with open arms , should have no bearing on the outcome.

Each alleged offence (and note that is what they are...alleged)
should be taken on face value.

In relation, to third party ownership, a complex area, at the best of times. Then, if found guilty, the FA will probably fine them.
The FA could argue 'they have no precedent' in the Football League to relate to.

QPR are worried........ if (and again, that's a big 'if') found guilty of the charge of 'attempting to pay an unlicensed agent', like Luton were, then that would surely carry a similar 10 point deduction?

Then again, will the FA play a blinder.... (if any wrong-doing is proved) could they not argue, that the majority of the offence(s) took place last season, dock Rangers 10 points from last season only, leaving them 4th bottom on goal difference. Big fine and order them to pay back their share of the prize money.......or would that be too convenient?

surfinjim · Posted: Tue May 03, 2011 6:38 pm Post subject:

I think they are going to go Old School draconian and hang Colin!
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Diamond Matt · Joined: 26 Nov 2010 Posts: 169

I don't see why they couldn't have made the decision earlier.

Whatever happens, Cardiff or Swansea (Whoever finishes 3rd) are going to appeal if it isn't a strong enough points deduction to warrent them an automatic place. If a points deduction does take place, then QPR are going to appeal that. Will the play-offs have to be put back?

Geddon · Joined: 20 Nov 2008 Posts: 1044 Location: Bristol

I've now changed my mind and think that a hefty points deduction is the fairest way of doing things Laughing

I think the appeals process can only take seven days, so there has been mention of the playoffs being shifted back by a week.

Footyfan · Joined: 25 Nov 2008 Posts: 507

If it is a points deduction and QPR appeal does anyone think that the Football League will allow the other clubs to vote on it? Remember, this precedent was set when Leeds Utd 1st appealed the -15 points deduction a couple of years back. Of course the clubs (chairmen) sided with the authorities.

Can't really see how QPR can escape this one, the real issue is that it has taken the authorities until now, the final week of the season, to get its act together and hear the case.

This matter should have been sorted months ago.

CF14 · Joined: 18 Nov 2009 Posts: 54 Location: Cardiff

Geddon wrote:

I've now changed my mind and think that a hefty points deduction is the fairest way of doing things Laughing

I think the appeals process can only take seven days, so there has been mention of the playoffs being shifted back by a week.

yeah right, i wonder why ??!! Very Happy

serious question though, which applies to both of our teams. say qpr get 10/15 points off and we/you are the team to benefit, you know that club will be labelled with the stigma that their only up because of qpr's sanctions. would that rest easy with you ?? im not sure it would me, as evry game next season it will be brought up i feel!!

seriously, i think victory is a formality for you on sat, and we will be lucky to get a point this w/e!! moral will be very low!!

paulo · Joined: 20 Nov 2008 Posts: 1098 Location: Norwich, NR7

Love this thread! Razz

WileBrownAstle · Joined: 03 Nov 2009 Posts: 1042 Location: Crewe

Im looking forward to see the outcome of this.
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surfinjim · Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 2:51 pm Post subject:

paulo wrote:

Love this thread! Razz

Champions!
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paulo · Joined: 20 Nov 2008 Posts: 1098 Location: Norwich, NR7

surfinjim wrote:

paulo wrote:

Love this thread! Razz

Champions!

I would not be suprised at all. I have heard they may even lose 45 points!!

Mad

Wulfrunian · Joined: 09 Jun 2009 Posts: 489 Location: Wolverhampton

If the FA don't deduct points from QPR, will Luton go to court over their points deductions that sent them to the conference. How much will that cost the FA?
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sinzine · Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 5:24 pm Post subject:

it's definitely gonna show all us footy fans how big the FA's balls are. Testing times for them..
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sharrowblade · Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 7:49 pm Post subject:

and so..................................the saga goes on and on.

Decision delayed until next week Judge

Unbelievable!

Geddon · Joined: 20 Nov 2008 Posts: 1044 Location: Bristol

So on Saturday afternoon QPR will be Champions, us or Cardiff will be third, and Leeds or Burnley will be 7th just missing out on the playoffs. A week tonight the first playoff semi-final is supposed to take place. If they don't decide before Monday how the fudge are people supposed to make plans in such a short space of time?

Leaving it this late is an absolute joke.

landorerocks · Joined: 31 Jul 2010 Posts: 197 Location: swansea

will they get the trophy on saturday Shocked

ToffeeDan · Joined: 21 Nov 2008 Posts: 2148 Location: Wirral

Jeez - just how incompetent can the FA be?

pompeypete · Forum Moderator Joined: 17 Sep 2009 Posts: 1094

I think deduction of points rather than a fine is the only way if found guilty !!!!

A fine to the clubs don't mean a fig.

In fact, the premier league & FA should deduct points for lack of respect toward referees........that would make them all toe the line, managers,players etc
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Tynie Topics · Joined: 26 Nov 2009 Posts: 3572

No points deduction.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/13318784.stm
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bjm · Joined: 05 Dec 2008 Posts: 143

No points deduction this season or next but a hefty financial penalty to pay - so, despite losing 1 - 2 to Leeds Utd, Rangers are Champs. Play-offs will be interesting, personally I fancy Reading (no, I do not support them!)