Football Programmes Centre

bisphamseasider · Joined: 02 Jun 2009 Posts: 2731 Location: Blackpool

As mentioned previously in different threads, I am trying to confirm the remaining details of Blackpool's post war programmes with a view to publishing the information either in book form or more likely online.

I am now looking at Lancashire Senior Cup programmes (1946/7 to 1973/4) and plan to ask for information on a club by club basis over the coming weeks.

I had thought of asking for everything in one go but this would probably put off some prospective readers with a long list of dates and different opponents.

So I will start with Liverpool as they were Blackpool's 1st post war opponents in this competition.

Blackpool played Liverpool on 6 occasions:-

02/10/1946 Home 1st Rd 1st Leg 4 pages
30/10/1946 Away 1st Rd 2nd Leg No details known
27/10/1948 Home 1st Rd Single sheet
06/05/1954 Home Final Single sheet
08/05/1954 Home Final Replay Single sheet
07/11/1960 Away 1st Rd Single sheet

I have programmes for 5 of these ties but require details from the game played at Anfield on 30/10/46.

Any information on what was issued would be much appreciated and if anyone can provide a scan or a photocopy that would be even better.

Many thanks

Molineux Phil · Joined: 22 Nov 2008 Posts: 823 Location: liverpool

Good luck with your quest mate ,cant be easy specialy going as far back has 1946,but undoughtdly the info is out there somewere,only this week i picked up some great data re the early career of my alltime footballing hero the late Derek Dougan re School Boy ,Youth & and Amateur Internationals,and have just added another seven rare to my "wants" list?.
Am i correct in thinking that these were basicaly RESERVE team fixtures.Phil.

bisphamseasider · Joined: 02 Jun 2009 Posts: 2731 Location: Blackpool

Yes Phil, the games in this period had a higher percentage of reserve players and could be deemed as reserve fixtures although many regular 1st teamers used to turn out.

The further back you go (1879/80 was the 1st year of the competition) the line ups were more 1st team player orientated.

In the 80s and 90s games were played pre=season, rather than throughout the season, and sort of acted as pre-season friendlies and teams were therefore predominantly made up of the 1st team squad.

In recent seasons the line ups have been comprised almost exclusively of reserve and senior youth players.

burnley_collector · Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 4:59 pm Post subject:

There's a book that has been published on the lancashire cup. I can't remember who the author was, but I have borrowed it from my local library. It is A4 size, and has a red cover.

burnley_collector · Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 5:21 pm Post subject:

ah - here you go:

http://www.soccer.mistral.co.uk/books/lancs.htm

bisphamseasider · Joined: 02 Jun 2009 Posts: 2731 Location: Blackpool

Cheers Burnley

I bought this book a couple of years ago.

Fascinating read and providing all fixtures, dates and results from 1879/80.

It helped me clear up a few queries of when games were played.

Just need my missing programme details to go with it.

lambie the leap · Joined: 16 May 2009 Posts: 381

Hi Bispham

Burnley and Blackpool have met on surprisingly few occasions in this competition. The post war games are as follows - I don't have programme details for many of them so perhaps you could fill in some of my missing info as well?

1945/46 1st Round 1st Leg at Burnley 16/08/45 n/k
1945/46 1st Round 2nd Leg at Blackpool 17/09/45 Prog issued

1947/48 1st Round at Blackpool 15/10/47 n/k

1953/54 1st Round at Blackpool 28/10/53 Prog issued

1954/55 1st Round at Burnley 26/10/54 n/k

1956/57 1st Round at Burnley 5/2/57 n/k

1962/63 2nd Round at Blackpool 3/4/63 Prog issued

1972/73 1st Round at Blackpool 10/10/72 Prog issued

As far as I can see from my records these are the only occasions the 2 clubs met post war in what I term the 'proper' LSC - ie up to the 1973/74 season. I have the 2 later programmes but not the 53/54 or 45/46.

Lambie

bisphamseasider · Joined: 02 Jun 2009 Posts: 2731 Location: Blackpool

You must be psychic Lambie, Burnley was the next club I was going to ask about as I knew there would be a response on here.

I can confirm that the games you have quoted are all present and correct and that your information matches mine exactly.

I also have the 62/3 and 72/3 and am aware of the 53/4 programme but don't have a copy. This was a standard type single sheet. One sold on E-bay about a couple of years ago for a sizeable amount. I can't remember exactly why I dropped out of this auction because normally I would pay anything to obtain LSC programmes. I think I must have just paid a mint for some pre war item.

Like you I don't have information on the 47/8, 54/5 or 56/7 ties. I imagine there is one for the 47/8 tie as Blackpool issued for everything at Bloomfield Road in those days including all reserves and any A or B team fixture that was played there.

My present research does not include 45/6 season but I have the 45/6 programme at Blackpool. This was a standard small size 4 page issue. I have no information on the 1st leg at Burnley though.

Perhaps the other Burnley collectors on here may be able to provide the missing information.

lambie the leap · Joined: 16 May 2009 Posts: 381

Tbh I don't think the other Burnley collectors on here concern themselves too much with this competition. I consider myself to have the 3rd best Burnley collection that's actually known about, and I've been in touch with the 'top 2' lads and neither of them has any more info about the missing games.

Like you, I would guess that there are programmes for the Burnley home fixtures, but it can only be a guess at this stage.

Cheers

Lambie

bisphamseasider · Joined: 02 Jun 2009 Posts: 2731 Location: Blackpool

Next up in my search for Blackpool Lancashire Senior Cup programme information is Blackburn Rovers.

There were just 3 ties in the period 1946/7 to 1973/4:-

17/11/1947 Away 2nd Rd ?
04/04/1966 Home 2nd Rd Single sheet
29/10/1969 Home 2nd Rd Single sheet

I have both home programmes but need information on whether anything was issued for the match at Blackburn in 1947.

andy1966 · Joined: 06 Jul 2009 Posts: 619

Hi Do you have a list of the games between Everton and Burnley during this period?

The ones I know about are:

17/10/62 Everton v Burnley, there was a teamsheet issued from Goodison.

9/3/65 again at Goodison, again a Teamsheet was issued.

bisphamseasider · Joined: 02 Jun 2009 Posts: 2731 Location: Blackpool

Hi Andy

I only keep records of Blackpool fixtures but as burnley_collector mentioned earlier in this thread there is a book which provides details of all LSC matches and results.

I have a copy of this book and I am to happy to go through it and list the Everton v Burnley ones when I get a spare moment.

However I would imagine burnley_collector will be able to come up with a list in much quicker time.

andy1966 · Joined: 06 Jul 2009 Posts: 619

Do you have any record on Everton playing Blackpool in this competition?

I am not aware of any

bisphamseasider · Joined: 02 Jun 2009 Posts: 2731 Location: Blackpool

Andy

I was going to post my request for information on Blackpool v Everton LSC matches a little later but as you have asked for details, here goes.

5 matches played in the period 1946/7 to 1973/4 all at Bloomfield Road

24/10/1951 Home 1st Rd ?
22/04/1959 Home Semi Final Single sheet
30/11/1966 Home 1st Rd Single sheet
12/10/1970 Home 2nd Rd Single sheet
28/10/1970 Home 2nd Rd Replay Single sheet

I just require information on whether anything was issued for the 1951 match.

lambie the leap · Joined: 16 May 2009 Posts: 381

Hi andy1966

Besides the 2 games at Goodison which you mention, the only other occasion Burnley & Everton met in the LSC was in the 1958/59 season. The game was played at Turf Moor on 16/12/58 and a programme was issued.

Lambie

bisphamseasider · Joined: 02 Jun 2009 Posts: 2731 Location: Blackpool

Cheers Lambie for providing Andy with those details.

I had of course intended to refer to you in my earlier message but got side tracked with mentioning the book which burnley_collector posted about.

Now I have not had much luck in confirming my missing programme details.

No confirmation on Liverpool, Blackburn or Everton so far so I will try Bolton Wanderers.

There were 5 ties in this period.

I require details of anything issued for the 2 games at Bolton in '64 and '65.

oldbolt · Joined: 06 Jun 2009 Posts: 434

I can't confirm whether there were programmes for the two matches at Bolton.
I've got a few 1960s Bolton Lancs Cup progs but they are all away ties, the homes are very difficult to find.
I emailed one of Bolton's most advanced collectors about them a few years ago and he said that he needed most of the homes.

upthedale · Joined: 21 Sep 2010 Posts: 136 Location: rochdale

Hi All

Been reading with interest you guys know your programmes
any info on teams v Rochdale would be a help

Thanks

manchesterunitedman1 · Joined: 17 Jan 2010 Posts: 3364 Location: United Kingdom

upthedale wrote:

Hi All

Been reading with interest you guys know your programmes
any info on teams v Rochdale would be a help

Thanks

Hello

The Record books state that Manchester United have met Rochdale in the LSC as follows:

8.12.1959 Single Sheet MU Reserve type programme exisits.
22.11.1967 MU Resrve type single sheet match was abandoned programme number 12 turns up regularly.
16.1.1968 Gets replayed same reserve type sheet not numbered turns up.
31.10.1967 away at Rochdale quite scarce these days nice item full programme.

6.12.1971 at Rochdale shows up now and then.
14.12.1971 Reserve type single sheet also turns up quite regualry usually with a token gouged out!. Some of the above can be found on my website if you want to take a closer look under the "Lancashire Senior Cup Competition"

Leslie Millman-manchesterunitedman1
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manchesterunitedman1 · Joined: 17 Jan 2010 Posts: 3364 Location: United Kingdom

bisphamseasider wrote:

Cheers Burnley

I bought this book a couple of years ago.

Fascinating read and providing all fixtures, dates and results from 1879/80.

It helped me clear up a few queries of when games were played.

Just need my missing programme details to go with it.

Hello Jonathon

I have the 2 LSC matches with Blackpool H/A from 1955-6-do you need a scan of one or both at all?-just let me know, have been meaning to get in touch for a while-sorry.