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ndg1860
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Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2021 10:46 am
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Apologies if this is not the right place, but it is programme related.
In the early days (well, early 1900s, 10s and 20s at least) programmes showed players by numbers. So, in the 1909-10 season, I have a programme for Chelsea v Everton and Spurs v QPR. The numbers of the players are given as 1-11 for the home side and 12-22 (in reverse order) for the away team. However, any pictures I can find appear not to show any numbers on any player shirts. Seems strange to have numbers in the programme but not on the players.
Can anyone here shed any light on this or have game pictures from these times whereby there were number on the back of shirts?
Thanks, Nick |
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Pete’s Picture Palace Forum Moderator
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Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2021 12:38 pm
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Shirt numbers were worn in one of the 1930's cup finals as a trial, I think, but didn't appear automatically till 1946, so though the programmes listed players by number in the early 1900's, that didn't serve much purpose till much later.
Someone will have more precise information on it than me. Guess I could Google it but then, you can do that too.
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littlewiggy
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Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2021 2:12 pm
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Completely unrelated to the topic here, but yesterday Burnley started at Anfield with No.s 1-11. I'd imagine that's not only a rare occurrence in the "squad numbers" era, but a proper one-off?! |
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WoodyCAFC
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Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2021 2:54 pm
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littlewiggy wrote: |
Completely unrelated to the topic here, but yesterday Burnley started at Anfield with No.s 1-11. I'd imagine that's not only a rare occurrence in the "squad numbers" era, but a proper one-off?! |
This came up yesterday - apparently, it's the first time that a Prem side fielded 1-11 numbers in the starting line-up since Charlton did that in 1999!
Sounds like a future pub quiz question to me! |
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seand
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I think Aston Villa fielded 1-11 shortly after the introduction of squad numbers, but I think that Villa, Charlton and now Burnley might be the only examples in the PL. |
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kilfie58
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Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2021 6:37 pm
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Pete’s Picture Palace wrote: |
Shirt numbers were worn in one of the 1930's cup finals as a trial, I think, but didn't appear automatically till 1946, so though the programmes listed players by number in the early 1900's, that didn't serve much purpose till much later.
Someone will have more precise information on it than me. Guess I could Google it but then, you can do that too.
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I can add that on the 1929 summer tour to South America, Chelsea played with numbered shirts, and the locals dubbed the team "Los Numeros".
But before that, both Chelsea and Arsenal played in numbered shirts, on the 25th August 1928. Chelsea played Swansea, won 4-0.
Hope this helps ? |
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kilfie58
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I can add that on the 1929 summer tour to South America, Chelsea played with numbered shirts, and the locals dubbed the team "Los Numeros".
But before that, both Chelsea and Arsenal played in numbered shirts, on the 25th August 1928. Chelsea played Swansea, won 4-0.
Hope this helps ? |
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ndg1860
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Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2021 10:05 pm
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kilfie58 wrote: |
I can add that on the 1929 summer tour to South America, Chelsea played with numbered shirts, and the locals dubbed the team "Los Numeros".
But before that, both Chelsea and Arsenal played in numbered shirts, on the 25th August 1928. Chelsea played Swansea, won 4-0.
Hope this helps ? |
Thanks. Most interesting. Also sent you a PM. |
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