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Mtbhull
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Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 12:34 pm
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This programme keeps appearing on ebay.
The cover has CF Barcelona on it yet the logo is FC Barcelona,[img] [/img]. Barca reverter to their Catalan name after the death of Franco in 1975.
My instinct is that this was part of a series printed in the 70s - I don't see how it can be contemporaneous with the actual match. And yet people say that they have seen it at the Nou Camp museum. And more than that it is usually priced at over £100.
Does anyone know any facts about this 'programme'? |
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holtie96
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Mtbhull
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Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 3:11 pm
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Thanks for the reply - I really appreciate it, but I'm still not convinced it can be from the 1950s.
1 It says CF Barcelona along the top which is correct for that period. As I understand it Catalan language was proscribed and so the Catalan version FC Barcelona was not allowed
2 The crest/logo has the initial FCB which was only used before and after Franco - pre-war to 1975. It is the wrong crest for the 1950s
3 I can't find any other Spanish football programmes from this period apart from a series of rather similar ones of the same size and similar designs.
So that's my concern, I'd love it to be 'right' but ...
Are there any clues as to who printed or published it? |
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Texas Rangers
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Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2021 2:03 am
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tackler7
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Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2021 8:56 am
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I would say none of the badges from the link posted by Texas Rangers compares to the programme cover.
It does not sit right with me. |
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colchestersid
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Mtbhull
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Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2021 4:57 pm
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Thanks for this reply colchestersid.
I must say that I had not seen a bound copy of these 'programmes'
But I cannot understand how the wrong crest is used. It seems to be something that did not happen on the others.
To say it was a mistake or the like is possible I guess. But Barcelona's ground was one of the few places where Catalan could be even spoken in Spain. The language was a big deal and that is why I think it points to this being a print from the 70s.
The other thing that makes me suspicious of these programmes is that they are glossy, with colour and photographs, more in line with a magazine than a football programme. I can't think of any 50s programmes in this country that would compare. I've had a cursory look at ebay and I can't find any programmes issued in this period by any other Spanish teams.
But I'm sure there are experts who can point me to the error of my ways! |
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overlap
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Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2021 5:14 pm
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I think this programme is genuine.
A few years ago I visited a flea market in Barcelona that the sadly-departed John Holroyd mentioned in a post on here some time back.
There were piles of similar Barcelona 1950s programmes for sale at a few euros each, covering run of the mill league games, but sadly none for the Hull or Burnley games (or any of their other friendlies against German or Swiss teams at around this time).
While the covers may be glossy the pages inside are of a cheap and pulpy 1940s/50s nature — all the production costs went into the covers.
(As for the badge issue it may have been sneaking something through to pit two fingers up to the Madrid establishment.) |
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Mtbhull
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Texas Rangers
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