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bluejames



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 10, 2020 9:03 pm 
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Hi Dorking
It is indeed a very rare ticket.The price would be determined by the lunatics that will die for a ticket

Here are a few more

At 1915/16 this is a season earlier than the one shown in the last post
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/6904869826/in/album-72157629753824703/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/6904879028/in/album-72157629753824703/

In 1939/40 when war broke out United recalled and destroyed all season tickets and eventually issued refunds
As such very few survived
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/7051288147/in/album-72157629753824703/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/7051294507/in/album-72157629753824703/

this final little gem was owned by Amy Davies who was the duaghter of a director
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/32528820957/in/album-72157629753824703/
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Boxcat



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 10, 2020 9:22 pm 
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Putting aside your comment about memorabilia collectors who pay high prices being lunatics - I have to say that some of the items you have posted are quite remarkable. I've been in this game for a long time and it is the first time I've seen some of the items that you have in your collection. So very well done on acquiring them!!
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bluejames



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 10, 2020 9:28 pm 
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Your comments much appreciated
When i talk about "lunatics" i put myself in that same bracket,however if i bid for something and don't win it, for whatever reason, i never bad mouth the auction houses like some folk do
This is a hobby to be enjoyed imo and should be dealt with accordingly
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Boxcat



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 10, 2020 9:51 pm 
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Couldn't agree more.
Very much looking forward to your next post!
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bluejames



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 11, 2020 7:33 am 
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Today we turn our attention to iconic players of the past and their personal possessions

We start with the first superstar of the game-Billy Meredith
I have in my collection some items realting to his Wales career whilst he was a Manchester United player
The first two items show the itinerary and playing squad of Wales game in Ireland on 14-2-1920
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/44546865681/in/album-72157627667185152/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/44546866341/in/album-72157627667185152/

The next two scans show the dinner menu-fully autographed by the Wales team from the ireland v Wales game in 1909
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/43131398580/in/album-7215762
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/31071469808/in/album-72157627667185152/7667185152/

Moving on,but staying in the same era we have some personal photos from Manchester United player George Stacey relating to the 1909 FA Cup final
This is the team relaxing at the Blackpool seaside before the cup final
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/5907546253/in/album-72157627003944091/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/5907552793/in/album-72157627003944091/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/5907559651/in/album-72157627003944091/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/5908125602/in/album-72157627003944091/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/5908133042/in/album-72157627003944091/



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GBE



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 11, 2020 8:01 pm 
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Some nice stuff there,

Always interesting to see items, not just of Manchester United but any club that are one off’s or rare
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bluejames



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 12, 2020 9:26 am 
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Sticking with the 1909 FA Cup Final.This was Manchester United's first win

A couple of action photos including the only known photo of the winning goal
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/6208197399/in/album-72157706193426261/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/6208690862/in/album-72157706193426261/

The team leave Manchester Town Hall
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/8204494293/in/album-72157627003944091/

also the WH Smith's programme from the game
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/30357299931/in/album
-72157707424003035/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/30327012352/in/album-72157707424003035/

And Manchester United's accounts covering the cup win and the building of the new stadium at Old Trafford
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/17271922216/in/album-72157633025701883/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/17296063602/in/album-72157633025701883/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/16677657503/in/album-72157633025701883/

And with a hint of things to come i show a postcard from the first ever season in Europe
This postcard bought in Bilbao shows the Bilbao stadium in 1957
It is fully signed on the rear
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/6170084228/in/album-72157706193426261/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/6170099442/in/album-72157706193426261/

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Boxcat



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 12, 2020 10:01 pm 
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Some absolutely fantastic historical records and photographs there. I've never seen a picture of the winning goal from the 1909 cup final - very interesting.

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bluejames



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2020 9:25 am 
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Moving forward with a mixture

First up is something special for cup final collectors
The 1945 War Cup Final(North) was played between Bolton Wanderers v Manchester United.
A two legged affair and the trophy was won by Bolton
On show is the programme,a press cutting and most rare a ticket from the game
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/33611768483/in/album-72157629720206212/

And for Scottish Team collectors i show some Manchester United v Scottish team rare items
A double issue programme covering Manchester United v Aberdeen and Southampton in April 1925.The game was a testimonial for Manchester United players Alf Steward and John Grimwood
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/6123351906/in/album-72157626992471919/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/6122796417/in/album-72157626992471919/

From 1923 comes these gems from Manchester United v Heart of Midlothian.This was a testimonial for Jack Mew and these items come from Jack's personal collection
An autographed team sheet,laid out in team line up order.Also included are the match officials who were also Manchester United players
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/14395113592/in/album-72157626992471919/

Manchester United v Airdieonians
This was a fundraiser played in May 1923 to raise money for the Lord Mayor's fund
The game was kicked off by the Lord Mayor himself
Shown here is the paper cuttings of the game together with a menu from the after match dinner for the teams at the Manchester Town Hall.A menu collectors dream
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/14209953639/in/album-72157626992471919/

And finally for today we have Manchester United v Glasgow Celtic programme from Xmas day 1914
The notes inside the programme are worth a read
One page covers the comment that when the game was orgainsed there was no hint of Germany's criminal intention(to ruin the game)
Also an advert to sign up as "Your King and Country need you"
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/15326113860/in/album-72157642282775885/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/15509711351/in/album-72157642282775885/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/15509716911/in/album-72157642282775885/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/15512877715/in/album-72157642282775885/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/15326140800/in/album-72157642282775885/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/15512891915/in/album-72157642282775885/
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bluejames



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2020 9:35 am 
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Today i will take you into the personal collection of the late Tommy Taylor of Barnsley,Manchester United and England
I will show you "coloured" photos from the 1950's(unheard of!!) plus letters and postcards in Tommy's own hand
Tommy came from,as most players did in that era,a working class background.He valued his old friendships from his schooldays in Barnsley.He had one specific mate who was Harry England.
Harry kept Tommy's letters and cards and when Tommy died in the Munich air disaster Harry was gifted,from Tommy's parents,the photos that Tommy had been given from newspaper journalists
Some of these were hand coloured in at the time ie the 1950's.
I find them fascinating as i hope you will including those that make a living from photographs
So let's start with coloured Manchester United photos
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/6213727972/in/album-72157627698103209/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/6213732024/in/album-72157627698103209/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/6213221047/in/album-72157627698103209/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/6213751762/in/album-72157627698103209/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/6213240543/in/album-72157627698103209/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/6215204236/in/album-72157627698103209/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/6214697583/in/album-72157627698103209/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/6214707115/in/album-72157627698103209/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/6214714701/in/album-721576276https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/6214730447/in/album-72157627698103209/98103209/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/6214761843/in/album-72157627698103209/

Now a few European related including a photo of Manchester United's first ever goal in the European Cup and action photos against Real Madrid and Bilbao
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/6215496682/in/album-72157627698103209/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/6215007097/in/album-72157627698103209/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/6215568040/in/album-72157627698103209/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/6215058881/in/album-72157627698103209/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/6215107307/in/album-72157627698103209/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/6213232813/in/album-72157627698103209/

A couple of England related
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/6216206685/in/album-72157627698103209/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/6216727684/in/album-72157627698103209/

Now a couple from his Barnsley days
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/6215561286/in/album-72157627698103209/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/6216223233/in/album-72157627698103209/

And finally a few sad ones
Tommy's parents attend his funeral plus his grave and memorial cards etc
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/6216745798/in/album-72157627698103209/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/6216745798/in/album-72157627698103209/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/6219790454/in/album-72157627698103209/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/6251209356/in/album-72157627698103209/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/6251214730/in/album-72157627698103209/


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Dorking



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2020 10:09 am 
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Those coloured photos are great!

I think colour photography didn't really get started until the 1960s (but I am happy to stand corrected of course)

This is an early colour photo of Palace v Millwall at Selhurst Park (grass banks!) in front of a huge crowd in 1961. I don't know if it was a colour camera, or if it is a 'coloured' b&w photo to be honest.



If it is hand coloured in, then a lot of work went into the colouring!

As for the player specific collection - terrific and what a splendid thing to have such a 'set'! I have part of a collection that belonged to Palace goalkeeper of the 1910's Josh Johnson. He kept all sorts of really collectible stuff - a rare yearbook, lots of postcards, and lots of photos. The collection has been sold on a few times, and each time, it gets broken up a little more, but I am pleased with what I have, and I am also glad to say quite a good percentage has made it into some Palace history books, as the items are mostly unique (and in many cases quite insightful with the information they hold)

Thanks again for sharing!
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bluejames



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2020 5:59 pm 
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I have a few minutes spare so i thought i would share some silverware from my collection
A couple of league champions medals
The first one is from 1951/52.
just a bit pre Busby Babes this was won by Don Gibson who was Matt Busby's son in law
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/8191870055/in/album-72157632027147335/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/8192955066/in/album-72157632027147335/

By 1955/56 the Busby Babes were developing.
This medal from that season was won by Jeff Whitefoot who made his debut at the age of 16
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/8192965754/in/album-72157632031304704/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/8192967254/in/album-72157632031304704/

I might as well throw in some badges for the badge collectors

Stewards Badges from the 1920's
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/8641426275/in/album-72157630708557026/

Early committee badge-possibly also 1920's
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/7628330600/in/album-72157630708557026/

Pre runners to the famous star badges from the mid 1950's
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/8145507319/in/album-72157630708557026/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/8145512317/in/album-72157630708557026/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/8145517325/in/album-72157630708557026/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/8145551840/in/album-72157630708557026/

Many of the above items are on loan to both the Manchester United museum and the National Football museum if you ever want a close up look and are in Manchester


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As there is some posting on postponed programmes on the forum today i will take you to some involving Manchester United

First up is Huddersfield v Manchester United.Posponed in 1921/22 season
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/6109702552/in/album-72157627584319870/

Second up is Manchester United v West Ham United postponed from 1937/38
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/12779941205/in/album-72157627584319870/

And finally a printers proof programme from the 1957 FA Cup Final between Manchester United v Aston Villa.
Of course this was not needed as Aston Villa won but if it had been a draw they would have replayed at Goodison the following Thursday
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/6729995519/in/album-72157627584319870/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/6730020341/in/album-72157627584319870/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/6730060259/in/album-72157627584319870/
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 15, 2020 12:08 pm 
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This is a bit like a willy waving competition with only one entrant!
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 15, 2020 12:35 pm 
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whosbrianwilson wrote:
This is a bit like a willy waving competition with only one entrant!


You should not be ashamed to wave YOUR willy about
Then folk can say who'swillyisthat??Surely it's not Brian Wilson's!!
As i say, the other forum is almost certainly a good place to take your bull and personal attacks as i assume there is a similar so called willy waving competition that i bet you don't comment on as you presumably have your lips surgically stuck to certain arses.
I would love to know exactly who you are,what you collect and what level you are at, that makes you so envious of others that have dedicated time,money and passion.And then share with the football world as i do for nowt what i have at both the Manchester United Museum and the National Football museum who both hold,free of charge some rarities that i own.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 8:26 pm 
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Some of my stuff...I haven't got a flikr site, not a scanner, so some photos I have taken of a few interesting bits from my collection. Most are pretty rare, although to be honest there is probably a fairly limited market of collectors interested in buying the sort of stuff I like!

First, my favourite collecting passion, badges. Most of what I collect these days are 'match badges' - mass produced and unofficial, sold by dodgy street vendors! I do love them though, and I love that in my old age, I'll have thousands of them. The one below is probably worth as much as all of them put together, and it is very vintage. It's 1932/33 for the supporters club, so there are far greater rarities about if you ever get to track down the President or Committee version!
If I had to choose between this one badge, and 100 modern match badges, it would be a really tough call which to choose though. I do like the modern stuff a lot!

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 8:38 pm 
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Next up, a rare old players pass from 1937



It's nicely made, and probably very few survive from any given year



One or two of the rules for the players make me chuckle at how things have changed -



- you could smoke on the way to an away game (at the discretion of the trainer!)



- but don't drive a motor car - if you have an accident in it, you won't get paid!
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Next up, staying on the 'paper' theme, a rare old fixture card from 1921. Palace would have been a Division 2 team playing at former ground 'The Nest' back then

(so one of the few good years - the vast majority of the clubs first 65 years were in the Southern League, Division 3(S) and Division 4!)



As you can see below, the owner very carefully filed in all the details of the games. What you don't realise from these photos is just how tiny that writing is, because the item really is very small!



I have never seen another the same in many, many years of collecting!
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