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goonerboy



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2017 12:20 am 
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About 4 years ago I won a big bundle of tickets on eBay for a bargain price. When the invoice came it was for standard postage but as i was keen for the bundle I enquired about tracked postage. The seller was a bit dismissive and reassured that normal post was fine. Stupidly I went with it. Of course the tickets never arrived and soon after he listed the tickets individually at 2-3 quid each. I asked for and got my money refunded and the seller blamed his wife as not putting the correct house number and apparently the package was returned to him by royal mail. Of course he had no proof of that and also refused to complete the sale. Of course both of us knew that he never sent it because the final price of the auction was too low.

I had not dealt with him since then but last week he listed some nice tickets and I won one lot consisting of a number of tickets but at a price I suspect below his expectations. Again he has been a bit dismissive about postal insurance. I suspect I am about to be treated to the same let down again with tickets not turning up and him blaming his wife for not addressing it properly or forgetting to send it by tracked postage or some such excuse and the tickets will start appearing individually.

I don't know if he remembers the previous episode as it was a while ago. Should i remind him although he could use that as a pretext that i am accusing him of stuff so he doesn't want to deal with me or do i just keep quiet and hope he has changed ?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2017 7:53 am 
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I had the same thing about a year ago when I won a bid for a load of 1950's West Ham programmes goonerboy.
Excuse after excuse from the seller, no interest from Ebay and ultimately saw them all relisted individually.
Sellers like this are what gives Ebay a bad name, and personally it's a case of not dealing with them again, but thankfully there are a lot more good sellers than bad ones.

With your current predicament, so as not to wind the seller up by what could be seen as accusing him, why not try insisting on a tracked service and state that you have had some items lost in the post recently and need to feel more secure?
That way you are not accusing him, but showing concern about standard postal services.

Good luck with this one mate.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2017 8:07 am 
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Can't understand why sellers do this surely they know what they want for the items if they do the simple answer is to put a reserve price on them, but then again it will cost more to list.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2017 8:43 am 
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Can't understand why sellers do this surely they know what they want for the items if they do the simple answer is to put a reserve price on them, but then again it will cost more to list.


Agree completely Foxes.
When I list items to sell on auction, I start the bid at the lowest amount that I would be happy with.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2017 10:21 am 
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I don't touch anyone with a bargepole who's shafted me before on that odious site.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2017 11:00 am 
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I suppose it’s the modern day practice of what used to go on occasionally with adverts in Programme Monthly whereby a seller would invite offers for an item (without mentioning “offers over”) and if the offers didn't measure up to what they were expecting, they simply ignored all the offers and kept the item and tried again a few months later.

Sadly it’s nothing new, although in those days there was little obligation to actually follow through with the sale whereas in theory there is on eBay. Thankfully I’ve no reason to suspect I’ve been a victim of this on eBay.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2017 12:38 pm 
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Five and In wrote:
foxes1 wrote:
Can't understand why sellers do this surely they know what they want for the items if they do the simple answer is to put a reserve price on them, but then again it will cost more to list.


Agree completely Foxes.
When I list items to sell on auction, I start the bid at the lowest amount that I would be happy with.



That's exactly what I do too mate.

Tell him you want to see a photo of the sealed envelope with your address on it Gooner, a photo of him getting into his car holding it, a photo of him posting it in the pillar box, and a photo of his missus in a topless cheerleader's costume.


[Joking apart, short of sending your own courier to pick it up, you're completely at his whim sadly buddy - he needs reporting if he stiffs you again - and naming & shaming - good luck buddy!]
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"and a photo of his missus in a topless cheerleader's costume".

Clap Clap

Knowing my luck if I did that his missus would probably be in her eighties and a picture like that would turn my stomach!!
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Laughing

I have asked for special delivery and the tracking number. I also sent him a picture of my missus instead.....that should scare the cr*p out of him
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Laughing Laughing Laughing
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Laughing

I have asked for special delivery and the tracking number. I also sent him a picture of my missus instead.....that should scare the cr*p out of him


Like your style! Very Happy
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Auchinleckian wrote:
I don't touch anyone with a bargepole who's shafted me before on that odious site.


Yep
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goonerboy wrote:
Laughing

I have asked for special delivery and the tracking number. I also sent him a picture of my missus instead.....that should scare the cr*p out of him


Send a picture of mine. I know when she's on her way home, the mice start throwing themselves on the traps. Neutral
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2017 4:42 pm 
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goonerboy wrote:
About 4 years ago I won a big bundle of tickets on eBay for a bargain price. When the invoice came it was for standard postage but as i was keen for the bundle I enquired about tracked postage. The seller was a bit dismissive and reassured that normal post was fine. Stupidly I went with it. Of course the tickets never arrived and soon after he listed the tickets individually at 2-3 quid each. I asked for and got my money refunded and the seller blamed his wife as not putting the correct house number and apparently the package was returned to him by royal mail. Of course he had no proof of that and also refused to complete the sale. Of course both of us knew that he never sent it because the final price of the auction was too low.

I had not dealt with him since then but last week he listed some nice tickets and I won one lot consisting of a number of tickets but at a price I suspect below his expectations. Again he has been a bit dismissive about postal insurance. I suspect I am about to be treated to the same let down again with tickets not turning up and him blaming his wife for not addressing it properly or forgetting to send it by tracked postage or some such excuse and the tickets will start appearing individually.

I don't know if he remembers the previous episode as it was a while ago. Should i remind him although he could use that as a pretext that i am accusing him of stuff so he doesn't want to deal with me or do i just keep quiet and hope he has changed ?


A few years ago, I had a similar problem with a seller who were (are?) programme dealers.

I won a programme that didn't sell for more than the starting price.

It never arrived, and I had many excuses ranging from it was sent, sent to the wrong address, we have been on holiday and finally... he blamed his wife for messing it up.

This went on for about two and a half weeks before I opened an ebay case against him. He wasn't very happy and was quite rude. he finally refunded me and told me that 'I can now call off the dogs (ebay)'

I have never purchased from them since, even though they had some nice items.
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Eck wrote:
goonerboy wrote:
Laughing

I have asked for special delivery and the tracking number. I also sent him a picture of my missus instead.....that should scare the cr*p out of him


Send a picture of mine. I know when she's on her way home, the mice start throwing themselves on the traps. Neutral


It's ok I sent one of my missus before she shaved in the morning.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2017 7:41 pm 
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Tintowner wrote:
goonerboy wrote:
About 4 years ago I won a big bundle of tickets on eBay for a bargain price. When the invoice came it was for standard postage but as i was keen for the bundle I enquired about tracked postage. The seller was a bit dismissive and reassured that normal post was fine. Stupidly I went with it. Of course the tickets never arrived and soon after he listed the tickets individually at 2-3 quid each. I asked for and got my money refunded and the seller blamed his wife as not putting the correct house number and apparently the package was returned to him by royal mail. Of course he had no proof of that and also refused to complete the sale. Of course both of us knew that he never sent it because the final price of the auction was too low.

I had not dealt with him since then but last week he listed some nice tickets and I won one lot consisting of a number of tickets but at a price I suspect below his expectations. Again he has been a bit dismissive about postal insurance. I suspect I am about to be treated to the same let down again with tickets not turning up and him blaming his wife for not addressing it properly or forgetting to send it by tracked postage or some such excuse and the tickets will start appearing individually.

I don't know if he remembers the previous episode as it was a while ago. Should i remind him although he could use that as a pretext that i am accusing him of stuff so he doesn't want to deal with me or do i just keep quiet and hope he has changed ?


A few years ago, I had a similar problem with a seller who were (are?) programme dealers.

I won a programme that didn't sell for more than the starting price.

It never arrived, and I had many excuses ranging from it was sent, sent to the wrong address, we have been on holiday and finally... he blamed his wife for messing it up.

This went on for about two and a half weeks before I opened an ebay case against him. He wasn't very happy and was quite rude. he finally refunded me and told me that 'I can now call off the dogs (ebay)'

I have never purchased from them since, even though they had some nice items.


You have a pm Mr TT. UTFM!
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