Your teams first programme producing season

[Eck]

Tynie Topics wrote:

kcs wrote: That's a shame, the now defunct site was very good. So was the now defunct team

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3qvosHHcWc

[treble99]

you might want to take at look at the British library website
best take a look whilst Scotland is till part of Britain!!!

Joking aside all early programmes were seen as newspapers so had to be lodged with the Post Office who looked after these things
As such they ended up with the British Library

If you google British Library Football Programmes it will take you in the right direction

They are showing they hold
Kilmarnock from 1929/30
The Lanarkshire which covers Albion,Airdrionians,Hamilton Academicals and Motherwell from 1929/30
The National Football programme glasgow from 1913

On a personal note i own a Manchester United v Glasgow Celtic programme from 1914

This and many other gems can be found at
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The worlds largest private Manchester United collection.
Coming to a computer near you

[Drvonshineck]

Interesting point Treble99.

I will check that out, I assume it costs?

Another reason to vote Yes, our archives will be available FREE to all Scottish citizens, it's well documented we don't like to part with our money!

[Eck]

treble99 wrote:

you might want to take at look at the British library website best take a look whilst Scotland is till part of Britain!!!

I'll let you into a secret, Scotland will vote a landslide "NO" to independence.

[Tynie Topics]

Eck wrote:

treble99 wrote: you might want to take at look at the British library website best take a look whilst Scotland is till part of Britain!!! I'll let you into a secret, Scotland will vote a landslide "NO" to independence.

I'll let you into a little secret Eck, you're going to be very disappointed
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[Eck]

I don't know what i'm voting yet so I don't know if i'll be disappointed. So far i've only heard the views of football supporters and they won't decide which way it goes. I'm thinking that common sense says that the nationalists don't have a good plan in place,if they did have we would know about it.

[derby1884]

Have they formally worded the way the referendum question will be asked yet?
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[Tynie Topics]

Eck wrote:

I don't know what i'm voting yet so I don't know if i'll be disappointed. So far i've only heard the views of football supporters and they won't decide which way it goes. I'm thinking that common sense says that the nationalists don't have a good plan in place,if they did have we would know about it.

Have you read the Govt white paper Eck? it sets out very clearly the plan for after a Yes vote, and would answer any questions you have.

The main Hearts forum have just ran a poll on the issue, of 400 responses, 56% were Yes, 30% No, and 14% Undecided. They ran the exact same poll two months ago, there has been a 5% swing towards Yes.

I know you use Facebook, there is a very good page set up by Rangers Supporters for Independence, look it up.

The information is out there, if you have an open mind on it, seek and you shall find.
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[Tynie Topics]

derby1884 wrote:

Have they formally worded the way the referendum question will be asked yet?

Yes

Should Scotland be an independent country ?
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[derby1884]

Tynie Topics wrote:

derby1884 wrote: Have they formally worded the way the referendum question will be asked yet? Yes Should Scotland be an independent country ?

Which, if I may split hairs for a minute, is a very different question to "Is it best for Scotland to be an independent country?"
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[Tynie Topics]

derby1884 wrote:

Tynie Topics wrote: derby1884 wrote: Have they formally worded the way the referendum question will be asked yet? Yes Should Scotland be an independent country ? Which, if I may split hairs for a minute, is a very different question to "Is it best for Scotland to be an independent country?"

It is indeed, but that is what the Electoral Commission decided upon. The SNP wanted;

Do you agree that Scotland should be an independent country?
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[derby1884]

I remain open-minded but my gut instinct tells me that devolution is a happy medium and that the move to independence, were it to occur, would be based more upon emotion than practicality.

On the other hand, the "Union", as such, does itself no favours when it is so blatantly centred around London and the Home Counties.

Given that we Scots already have a devolved Parliament, I think it's the economically deprived areas of England who should be pushing for a more representative form of governance.
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[Tynie Topics]

derby1884 wrote:

I remain open-minded but my gut instinct tells me that devolution is a happy medium and that the move to independence, were it to occur, would be based more upon emotion than practicality. On the other hand, the "Union", as such, does itself no favours when it is so blatantly centred around London and the Home Counties. Given that we Scots already have a devolved Parliament, I think it's the economically deprived areas of England who should be pushing for a more representative form of governance.

Personally I think what we have now is the worst solution possible.

Either way, not the thread for this sort of debate!
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[Drvonshineck]

It's quite funny because I was going to start an independence thread and inadvertantly I have!

Yes from me also, who wants their decisions made by posh boys 900 miles away?

[treble99]

it's a free service to view at the British Library by the way

And letting Scottish football decide the vote is a big no no.

They've forgotten how to play football.

What few games i watch,as my son is at Edinburgh University involve Hibs and Hearts.
They could take the ball off the pitch.
Nobody would miss it

[Scottberg]

derby1884 wrote:

I remain open-minded but my gut instinct tells me that devolution is a happy medium and that the move to independence, were it to occur, would be based more upon emotion than practicality. On the other hand, the "Union", as such, does itself no favours when it is so blatantly centred around London and the Home Counties. Given that we Scots already have a devolved Parliament, I think it's the economically deprived areas of England who should be pushing for a more representative form of governance.

I'm with you on that one, DevoMax or whatever it will be called. It is a heart v head thing for me and being the cold calvinist that I am the SNP have a lot more convincing to do.

[Eck]

Rangers,Celtic & Dundee's first official programme were all in the 46/47 season.

All three links from http://www.celticprogrammesonline.com/

http://www.celticprogrammesonline.com/PROGRAMME%20COVERS/4647/rangers4647a.jpg

http://www.celticprogrammesonline.com/PROGRAMME%20COVERS/4647/clyde4647.htm#home

http://www.celticprogrammesonline.com/PROGRAMME%20COVERS/4647/dundee4647a.jpg

[Drvonshineck]

Top reaseraching Eck.

And the link is excellent also.

[scotty boy]

eck--rangers v moscow dynamo 1945 ??--i am auctioning on monday along with my whole collection

[Eck]

scotty boy wrote:

eck--rangers v moscow dynamo 1945 ??--i am auctioning on monday along with my whole collection

Where Scotty?