Europe 2009/10

[jambokev]

Barrett wrote:

Can we get Hearts?

Let's wait to the final though

If both Everton and Hearts enter the Play off round, there may be a chance of both side meeting, unless 16 seeded teams I think get knocked out of the 3rd qualifying round, which is quite unlikely but in that case, I believe Hearts will be seeded and will not be able to draw Everton.

[jambokev]

There is still a chance UEFA will slightly alter the number of teams in each Europa league qualifier so no team gets automatic entry to the Group Stages.

There is meant to be one current holders spot guarenteed in the group stages for the UEFA Cup winner, if the winner has qualified for the Champions League, like Shakhtar, they cannot now enter the Europa League. My understanding of it all, is if Everton win the FA cup, they will enter into the group stages no problem, but if they don't, I think UEFA may decide to take away the entry to the group stages, because they want more prestige in the domestic cup competitions.

If they decide this is the best way forward, 2 teams from Q1 will enter Q2, 2 from Q2 will enter Q3 which means there will be one team extra in the PO round, the "current holders" place in the group stages will be taken away which means one team will drop back down to the PO round which means there is 76 teams in the PO round, 38 going through, joined by 10 from the Champions League, making 48 teams in total.

Confused?

I'll leave the original post as it is just now, until the FA Cup final has been played, we'll not know what UEFA will do.

[Barrett]

Wow, what a confuing competition!

Maybe it's best for me to just wait until the draw is made to try and make sense of it haha

Does anyone know if there will be a brand new trophy next season or will they use the old UEFA Cup?

[jambokev]

I've edited the OP to show no direct entry to the group stages of the Europa League. We'll need to wait to see if UEFA decide to give the FA Cup winners/5th automatic entry, their new Europa League regulations aren't clear, in the case the Uefa Cup winners have qualified for the Champions League, which has happened with Shakhtar Donetsk.

[jambokev]

Barrett wrote:

Wow, what a confuing competition! Maybe it's best for me to just wait until the draw is made to try and make sense of it haha Does anyone know if there will be a brand new trophy next season or will they use the old UEFA Cup?

Now that a few more teams have qualified, it's starting to take shape a bit more now, Next week after the domestic cup finals, I'll add the coefficients to see what teams will be seeded and unseeded. We'll also find out about the only grey area - the current holders place in the Group Stages.

and, UEFA will be using the Uefa Cup trophy for the Europa League.

[jambokev]

The seeding for the Europa League 1st AND 2nd Qualifying rounds is as follows;

Europa League 1st Qualifying Round seeding;

Seeded

coefficients; team/position; nation
28.760 Rosenborg BK (Nor) (Fair Play)
12.016 Anorthosis Famagusta (Cyp)
9.938 Helsingborg IF (Swe)
5.575 Motherwell (Sco) (Fair Play)
4.890 Randers (Den) (Fair Play)
3.583 Polonia Warsaw (Pol)
3.050 Bnei Yehuda (Isr)
2.932 Spartak Trnava (Svk)
2.466 Slaven Belupo (Cro)
1.957 FC Lahti (Fin)
1.933 Vetra (Lit)
1.899 Sligo Rovers (Nir)
1.832 Dinaburg (Lat)
1.816 Rudar Velenje (Svn)
1.733 Dinamo Minsk (Blr)
1.733 MTZ-RIPO (Blr)
1.732 Siroki Brijeg (Bos)
1.633 Szombathelyi Haladas (Hun)
1.332 Olimpi Rustavi (Geo)
1.332 Zestaponi (Geo)
1.332 Zimbru Chisinau (Mdv)
1.322 Keflavik (Isl)
1.322 Fram (Isl)

Unseeded

1.032 Renova (Mkd)
0.899 Inter Baku (Aze)
0.899 Simurq Zaqatala (Aze)
0.866 Trans (Est)
0.866 Kalju (Est)
0.799 Vllaznia (Alb)
0.799 Dinamo Tirana (Alb)
0.649 Irtysh (Kaz)
0.649 Okzhetpes (Kaz)
0.599 MIKA (Arm)
0.599 Banants Yerevan (Arm)
0.465 Llanelli (Wal)
0.465 The New Saints (Wal)
0.432 Linfield (Nir)
0.432 Lisburn Distillery (Nir)
0.432 B36 Torshavn (Fro)
0.432 NSI Runavik (Fro)
0.266 UN Kaerjeng 97 (Lux)
0.266 CS Grevenmacher (Lux)
0.200 Buducnost (Mne)
0.200 Sutjeska Niksic (Mne)
0.099 Valletta (Mal)
0.099 Birkirkara (Mal)

Draw is made on the 22nd of June 2009.

1st leg is played 2 July 2009.
2nd leg is played 9 July 2009.


Europa League 2nd Qualifying Round seeding;

Seeded

53.781 Steaua Bucharest (Rom)
51.050 Basel (Sui)
33.445 Galatasaray (Tur)
28.760 Q1 Rosenborg
24.890 Aalborg BK (Den)
12.050 Red Star Belgrade (Srb)
12.016 Q1 Anorthosis Famagusta
10.890 Brondby IF (Den)
10.370 Metalurh Donetsk (Ukr)
9.938 Q1 Helsingborg IF
8.932 Zilina (Svk)
8.760 Tromso (Nor)
8.565 Rapid Wien (Aut)
8.292 Pacos de Ferreira (Por)
7.825 NAC Breda (Hol)
7.632 Larissa (Gre)
6.938 Elfsborg (Swe)
5.575 Falkirk (Sco)
5.575 Q1 Motherwell
5.250 Cherno More Varna (Bul)
5.065 Gent (Bel)
4.890 Q1 Randers
4.150 Sigma Olomouc (Cze)
3.583 Legia Warsaw (Pol)
3.565 Sturm Graz (Aut)
3.332 Dinamo Tbilisi (Geo)
3.050 Sevojno (Srb)
3.050 Maccabi Netanya (Isr)
3.050 Q1 Bnei Yehuda
3.016 Omonia (Cyp)
2.932 Q1 Spartak Trnava
2.899 St Patrick's Athletic (Irl)
2.899 Derry City (Irl)
2.816 Gorcia (Svn)
2.583 Q1 Polonia Warsaw
2.466 Rijeka (Cro)
2.466 Q1 Slaven Belupo
2.032 Rabotnicki Skopje (Mkd)
1.957 HJK Helsinki (Fin)
1.957 Honka (Fin)

Unseeded

1.957 Q1 FC Lahti
1.933 Suduva (Lit)
1.933 FBK Kaunas (Lit)
1.933 Q1 Vetra
1.899 Q1 Sligo Rovers
1.832 Liepajas Metalurgs (Lat)
1.832 Skonto Riga (Lat)
1.832 Q1 Dinaburg
1.816 Q1 Rudar Velenje
1.733 Naftan (Blr)
1.733 Q1 Dinamo Minsk
1.733 Q1 MTZ-RIPO
1.732 Slavija (Bos)
1.732 Sarajevo (Bos)
1.732 Q1 Siroki Brijeg
1.633 Ujpest (Hun)
1.633 Q1 Szombathelyi Haladas
1.332 Q1 Olimpi Rustavi
1.332 Q1 Zestaponi
1.332 Dacia Chisinau (Mda)
1.332 Iskra-Stal (Mda)
1.332 Q1 Zimbru Chisinau
1.332 KR Reykjavik (Isl)
1.322 Q1 Keflavik
1.322 Q1 Fram
1.100 Vaduz (Lie)
1.032 Milano (Mkd)
0.899 Karabakh (Aze)
0.866 Flora (Est)
0.799 Flamuntari Vlore (Alb)
0.649 Tobol (Kaz)
0.599 Gandzasar Kapan (Arm)
0.465 Bangor City (Wal)
0.432 Crusaders (Nir)
0.432 HB Torshavn (Fro)
0.266 Differdange (Lux)
0.200 Petrovac (Mne)
0.100 Santa Coloma (And)
0.099 Sliema Wanderers (Mal)
0.050 Juvenes Dogana (Sma)

Draw is made on the 22nd of June 2009.

1st leg is played 16 July 2009.
2nd leg is played 23 July 2009.


As both draws are made on the same day, coefficients are taken from the seeded teams from the 1st round for the 2nd Round draw. Even if the unseeded team from the 1st Round wins, they take the seeded teams' coefficients for the 2nd round.

[stodin]

Auchinleckian wrote:

Am I the only one who thinks that the whole issue of "Champion's League" - which is nothing of the sort - and the Europa League have absolutely nothing to do with football, but are there purely to rip fans off, line the pockets of fuckwit footballers and big business? Would rather boil my head than subscribe to all that nonsense.

No you are not the only one

[grimsbybarralad]

Auchinleckian wrote:

Am I the only one who thinks that the whole issue of "Champion's League" - which is nothing of the sort - and the Europa League have absolutely nothing to do with football, but are there purely to rip fans off, line the pockets of fuckwit footballers and big business? Would rather boil my head than subscribe to all that nonsense.

You are definitely NOT the only one. It's a million miles from what I want from my football.

[Auchinleckian]

Grimsbybarralad - there was never this problem with a midweek trip to the Old Show Ground for the Lincolnshire Cup? Guaranteed a "special" train, plenty of beer flowing, running the gauntlet down the Doncaster Road, and spanking the Scunny Bunnies to either reach another final, or to win it. Always used to be single sheet programmes as well.
Trying desperately to remember the name of the Scunny pub - it was the *********** hotel, where there was a transvestite singer / compere in the 1970's. What a spectacle, and all the guys living in the steel works village just off the motorway would be in there hollering their heads off (it was a difficult time living in a nissan hut village with only other males for company, I'm led to believe)
Proper football!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[grimsbybarralad]

Auchinleckian wrote:

Grimsbybarralad - there was never this problem with a midweek trip to the Old Show Ground for the Lincolnshire Cup? Guaranteed a "special" train, plenty of beer flowing, running the gauntlet down the Doncaster Road, and spanking the Scunny Bunnies to either reach another final, or to win it. Always used to be single sheet programmes as well. Trying desperately to remember the name of the Scunny pub - it was the *********** hotel, where there was a transvestite singer / compere in the 1970's. What a spectacle, and all the guys living in the steel works village just off the motorway would be in there hollering their heads off (it was a difficult time living in a nissan hut village with only other males for company, I'm led to believe) Proper football!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I think the name you are looking for is the "Royal Hotel".

But, yes indeed. Proper football....

[jambokev]

Here is the seedings for the Europa League Q3.

Since the 3rd round draw is made before the conclusion of the 2nd round matches, once again, teams take the seed of the seeded team through to the 3rd round.

The Play Off round seeding cannot be calculated until

Europa League 3rd Qualifying Round seeding;

Seeded

78.581 Roma (Ita)
75.825 PSV Eindhoven (Hol)
67.339 Hamburg (Ger)
53.781 Q2 Steaua Bucharest
52.445 Fenerbahce (Tur)
51.050 Q2 Basel
47.033 Lille (Fra)
39.292 Braga (Por)
34.065 Club Brugge (Bel)
33.445 Q2 Galatasaray
31.565 Austria Wien (Aut)
28.760 Q2 (Q1 Rosenborg)
24.890 Q2 Aalborg
24.370 Metalist Kharkiv (Ukr)
23.853 Athletic Bilbao (Spa)
18.050 Hapoel Tel-Aviv (Isr)
15.899 Fulham (Eng)
14.250 CSKA Sofia (Bul)
12.890 Odense (Den)
12.583 Lech Poznan (Pol)
12.150 Slovan Liberec (Cze)
12.050 Q2 Red Star Belgrade
12.016 Q2 (Q1 Anorthosis Famagusta)
11.575 Aberdeen (Sco)
11.525 Krylia Sovetov (Rus)
10.890 Q2 Brondby
10.370 Metalurh Donetsk
9.938 Q2 (Q1 Helsingborg IF)
9.781 Vaslui (Rom)
9.632 PAOK (Gre)
8.932 Q2 Zilina
8.760 Q2 Tromso
8.565 Q2 Rapid Wien
8.292 Q2 Pacos de Ferreira
7.825 Q2 NAC Breda

Unseeded

7.632 Q2 Larissa
6.938 Q2 Elfsborg
6.050 BSC Young Boys (Sui)
5.575 Q2 Falkirk
5.575 Q2 (Q1 Motherwell)
5.250 Q2 Cherno More Varna
5.065 Q2 Gent
4.890 Q2 (Q1 Randers)
4.760 Valerengen (Nor)
4.150 Q2 Sigma Olomouc
3.760 Fredrikstad (Nor)
3.583 Q2 Legia Warsaw
3.583 Q2 (Q1 Polonia Warsaw)
3.565 Q2 Sturm Graz
3.332 Q2 Dinamo Tbilisi
3.050 Vojvodina Novi Sad (Srb)
3.050 Q2 Sevojno (Srb)
3.050 Q2 Maccabi Netanya
3.050 Q2 (Q1 Bnei Yehuda)
3.016 APOP (Cyp)
3.016 Q2 Omonia
2.938 IFK Goteborg (Swe)
2.932 Kosice (Svk)
2.932 Q2 (Q1 Spartak Trnava)
2.899 Q2 St Patrick's Athletic)
2.899 Q2 Derry City
2.816 Q2 Novo Gorica
2.466 Hadjuk Split (Cro)
2.466 Q2 Rijeka
2.466 Q2 (Q1 Slaven Koprivnica)
2.032 Q2 Rabotnicki Skopje
1.957 Q2 HJK Helsinki
1.957 Q2 Honka
1.816 Ljubljana (Svn)
1.633 Honved Budapest (Hun)

[pastpirate]

Am I the only one who has no b****y idea of how this works
Jamie (feeling very stupid)
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[jambokev]

pastpirate wrote:

Am I the only one who has no b****y idea of how this works Jamie (feeling very stupid)

What is it you don't know?

The seeding? Qualification rounds?

I'll do my best to help.

[jambokev]

Here is the seeding for the Champions League qualifying draws.

Champions League 1st Qualifying round seedings;

Seeded

0.200 Mogren Budva (Mne)
0.100 Sant Julia (And)

Unseeded

0.099 Hibernians (Mal)
0.050 Tre Fiori (Sma)


Champions League 2nd Qualifying round seedings;

Seeded

26.890 Copenhagen (Den)
24.250 Levski Sofia (Bul)
23.050 Partizan Belgrade (Srb)
15.050 Maccabi Haifa (Isr)
16.466 Dinamo Zagreb (Cro)
9.583 Wisla Krakow (Pol)
7.733 BATE Borisov (Blr)
6.565 Salzburg (Aut)
4.938 Kalmar FF (Swe)
4.016 APOEL (Cyp)
3.760 Stabaek IF (Nor)
2.932 Slovan Bratislava (Svk)
2.832 Ventspils (Lat)
2.816 Maribor (Svn)
2.332 Hafnarfjardar (Isl)
1.957 Inter Turku (Fin)
1.933 Ekranas (Lit)

Unseeded

1.899 Bohemians (Irl)
1.732 Zrinjski Mostar (Bos)
1.633 Debrecen (Hun)
1.332 WIT Georgia (Geo)
1.332 Sheriff Tiraspol (Mol)
1.032 Makedonija Skopje (Mkd)
0.899 Baku (Azr)
0.866 Levadia (Est)
0.799 Tirana (Alb)
0.649 Aktobe (Kaz)
0.599 Pyunik Yerevan (Arm)
0.465 Rhyl (Wal)
0.432 Glentoran (Nir)
0.432 EB Streymur (Fro)
0.266 F91 Dudelange (Lux)
0.200 1QR Mogren Budva
0.100 1QR Sant Julia

Champions League 3rd Qualifying round for Champions' seedings;

Seeded

52.632 Olympiakos (Gre)
26.890 2QR Copenhagen
25.150 Slavia Prague (Cze)
24.250 2QR Levski Sofia
23.050 2QR Partizan Belgrade
17.050 2QR Maccabi Haifa
16.466 2QR Dinamo Zagreb
14.050 Zurich (Sui)
9.583 2QR Wisla Krakow
7.733 2QR BATE Borisov

Unseeded

6.565 2QR Salzburg (Aut)
4.938 2QR Kalmar FF (Swe)
4.016 2QR APOEL (Cyp)
3.760 2QR Stabaek IF (Nor)
2.932 2QR Slovan Bratislava (Svk)
2.832 2QR Ventspils (Lat)
2.816 2QR Maribor (Svn)
2.332 2QR Hafnarfjardar
1.957 2QR Inter Turku (Fin)
1.933 2QR Ekranas (Lit)


Champions League 3rd Qualifying round for Non-Champions' seedings;

Seeded

74.370 Shakhtar Donetsk (Ukr)
68.292 Sporting Lisbon (Por)
56.632 Panathinaikos (Gre)
40.575 Celtic (Sco)
32.065 Anderlecht (Bel)

Unseeded

26.150 Sparta Prague (Cze)
17.825 Twente (Hol)
9.525 Dinamo Moscow (Rus)
7.781 Timisoara (Rom)
6.445 Sivasspor (Tur)


Champions League Play Off round for Champions' seedings;

Will not be known until the C3QR have been played.

Champions League Play Off round for Non-Champions' seedings;

Will not be fully known until after NC3QR have been played.
Arsenal and Lyon will both be seeded.
Stuttgart will only be seeded if ONE of Shakhtar, Sporting or Panathinaikos loses their NC3QR.
Stuttgart and Fiorentina will be seeded if TWO of Shakhtar, Sporting or Panathinaikos loses their NC3QR.
Stuttgart, Fiorentina and Athletico Madrid will be seeded if ALL THREE of Stuttgart, Fiorentina or Panathinaikos loses their NC3QR.
If Shakhtar, Sporting or Panathinaikos win their NC3QR, they are guarenteed to be seeded.

[jambokev]

1st Qualifying Round Draw

MTZ RIPO (Blr) v Sutjeska Niksic (Mtn)
Lahti (Fin) v Dinamo Tirana (Alb)
Vetra (Lit) v Grevenmacher (Lux)
Rosenborg (Nor) v NSI Runavik (Fro)
Szombathelyi Haladas (Hun) v Irtysh (Kaz)
Sligo Rovers (Irl) v Vllaznia (Alb)
Olimpi Rustavi (Geo) v B36 Torshavn (Fro)
Anorthosis (Cyp) v Kaerjeng (Lux)
Slaven Belupo (Cro) v Birkirkara (Mal)
Zimbru Chisinau (Mdv) v Okzhetpes (Kaz)
Lisburn Distillery (Nir) v Zestaponi (Geo)
Helsingborg (Swe) v MIKA (Arm)
Valletta (Mal) v Keflavik (Isl)
Dinaburg (Lat) v Nomme Kalju (Est)
Buducnost (Mnt) v Polonia Warsaw (Pol)
Rudar Velenje (Svn) v Narva Trans (Est)
Motherwell (Sco) v Llanelli (Wal)
Siroki Brijeg (Bos) v Banants (Arm)
Spartak Trnava (Svk) v Inter Baku (Aze)
Dinamo Minsk (Blr) v Renova (Mkd)
Randers (Den) v Linfield (Nir)
Simurq Zaqatala (Aze) v Bnei Yehuda (Isr)
The New Saints (Wal) v Fram (Isl)


2nd Qualifying Round Draw

Rosenborg or NSI Runavik v Karabakh (Aze)
Pacos de Ferreira (Por) v Zimbru Chisinau or Okzhetpes
Buducnost or Polonia Warsaw v Juvenes Dogana (Sma)
Sturm Graz (Aut) v Siroki Brijeg or Banants
Basel (Sui) v Santa Coloma (And)
Honka (Fin) v Bangor City (Wal)
MSK Zilina v Dacia Chisinau (Mdv)
Anorthosis or Kaerjeng v Petrovac (Mnt)
St Patrick's Athletic (Irl) v Valletta or Keflavik
Omonia (Cyp) v HB (Fro)
Gorcia (Svn) v Lahti or Dinamo Tirana
Sigma Olomouc (Cze) v The New Saints or Fram
Legia Warsaw (Pol) v Olimpi Rustavi or B36 Torshavn
Falkirk (Sco) v Vaduz (Lie)
Elfsborg (Swe) v Szombathelyi Haladas or Irtysh
Rapid Wien (Aut) v Sligo Rovers or Vllaznia
Naftan (Blr) v Gent (Bel)
Liepajas Metalurgs (Lat) v Dinamo Tbilisi (Geo)
Diffidence (Lux) v Rijeka (Cro)
Suduva (Lit) v Randers or Linfield
Vetra or Grevenmacher v HJK Helsinki (Fin)
Milano (Mkd) v Slaven Belupo or Birkirkara
Dinamo Minsk or Renova v Tromso (Nor)
KR (Isl) v Larissa (Gre)
Brondby (Den) v Flora (Est)
Aalborg BK (Den) v Slavija (Bos)
Steaua Bucharest (Rom) v Ujpest (Hun)
Metalurh Donetsk (Ukr) v MTZ-RIPO or Sutjeska Niksic
Rabotnicki (Mkd) v Crusaders (Nir)
Simurq Zaqatala or Bnei Yehuda v Dinaburg or Nomme Kalju
NAC Breda (Hol) v Gandzasar Kapan (Arm)
Cherno More (Bul) v Iskra-Stal (Mdv)
FBK Kaunas v Sevokno (Ser)
Flamurtari Vlore (Alb) v Motherwell or Llanelli
Lisburn Distillery or Zestaponi v Helsingborg or MIKA
Skonto (Lat) v Derry City (Irl)
Sliema Wanderers (Mal) v Maccabi Netanya (Isr)
Tobol (Kaz) v Galatasaray (Tur)
Rudar Velenje or Narva Trans v Red Star Belgrade (Ser)
Sarajevo (Bos) v Spartak Trnava or Inter Baku

[Barrett]

Whats the dates for the above rounds mate?

[jambokev]

1st Qualifying Round Draw

UE Sant Julia (And) v Tre Fiori (Sma)
Hibernians (Mal) v Mogren (Mne)

2nd Qualifying Round Draw

Tirana (Alb) v Stabaek (Nor)
WIT Georgia (Geo) v Maribor (Svn)
EB Streymur (Fro) v APOEL (Cyp)
Copenhagen (Nor) v Hibernians or Mogren
Debrecen (Hun) v Kalmar FF (Swe)
Makedonija Gjorce Petrov (Mkd) v BATE (Blr)
FH (Isl) v Aktobe (Kaz)
Pyunik Yerevan (Arm) v Dinamo Zagreb (Cro)
Ventspils (Lat) v F91 Dudelange (Lux)
Ekranas (Lit) v Baku (Aze)
Red Bull Salzburg (Aut) v Bohemians (Irl)
Zrinjski (Bos) v Slovan Bratislava (Svn)
Inter Turku (Fin) v Sheriff Tiraspol (Mdv)
Rhyl (Wal) v Partizan (Ser)
Wisla Krakow (Pol) v Levadia (Est)
Levski Sofia v UE Sant Julia or Tre Fiori
Maccabi Haifa (Isr) v Glentoran (Nir)

[jambokev]

Barrett wrote:

Whats the dates for the above rounds mate?

Europa League dates;
1st round, 1st leg - 2 July
1st round, 2nd leg - 9 July
2nd round, 1st leg - 16 July
2nd round, 2nd leg - 23 July

Champions League dates;
1st round, 1st leg - 30 June/1 July
1st round, 2nd leg - 7/8 July
2nd round, 1st leg - 28/29 July
2nd round, 2nd leg - 4/5 August

[Mikey B]

What i'd give for AC Milan back at fortress Fratton!

[ToffeeDan]

CL 2nd QR (all unseeded - will continue with seeded teams ranking for next round if qualifying)
1 Bohemians Dublin - tough draw
2 Rhyl FC - very tough draw
3 Glentoran - very tough draw

Red Bull Salzburg (Aut) v Bohemians (Irl)
Rhyl (Wal) v Partizan (Ser)
Maccabi Haifa (Isr) v Glentoran (Nir)

Can't see any of the British teams winning here!

Need to win tie to proceed to 3rd Rd (where they would qualify for CL 4th Rd or Europa 4th Rd - all unseeded)

CL 3rd QR (seeded - winners proceed to 4th QR, losers to 4th QR Europa)

4 Celtic (would be seeded in Europa 4th QR)

CL 4th QR (seeded - winners proceed to Group Stage CL, losers to Group Stage Europa)

5 Arsenal

CL Group Stages (8 Groups of 4: 1st and 2nd proceed to last 16, 3rd placed teams to Europa KO Stage - last 32)

6 Liverpool (Seeded 1)
7 Chelsea (Seeded 1)
8 Man Utd (Seeded 1)
9 Rangers (Seeded 3)


Europa:

1st QR

Seeded:
10 Motherwell - ought to beat Llanelli

Unseeded:
11 Lisburn Distillery - got a chance with a visit to Georgia
12 Linfield - tough draw but not impossible
13 Llanelli FC - will probably lose to Motherwell
14 The New Saints - got a chance but unseeded.

Lisburn Distillery (Nir) v Zestaponi (Geo)
Motherwell (Sco) v Llanelli (Wal)
Randers (Den) v Linfield (Nir)
Sligo Rovers (Irl) v Vllaznia (Alb)
The New Saints (Wal) v Fram (Isl)

2nd QR
Seeded:
15 Falkirk
16 St. Patrick's Athletic
17 Derry City

Unseeded:
18 Crusaders Belfast
19 Sligo Rovers
20 Bangor City

Suduva (Lit) v Randers or Linfield
Flamurtari Vlore (Alb) v Motherwell or Llanelli - a clear chance for Motherwell to proceed
Lisburn Distillery or Zestaponi v Helsingborg (Swe) or MIKA (Arm)

Falkirk (Sco) v Vaduz (Lie) - a good draw for Falkirk
St Patrick's Athletic (Irl) v Valletta (Mal) or Keflavik (Ice) - got a chance
Skonto (Lat) v Derry City (Irl) - got a chance to win this
Rabotnicki (Mkd) v Crusaders (Nir) - trip to Macedonia, will be tough
Rapid Wien (Aut) v Sligo Rovers or Vllaznia - very tough draw
Honka (Fin) v Bangor City (Wal) - got a chance to proceed but won't be easy

These ties are sometimes hard to gauge - not ones you'd necessarily want to put your money on!

3rd QR
Seeded:
21 Fulham
22 Aberdeen

Opponents are all beatable - chances in 4th Rd depend on whether they are seeded and if not the luck of the draw.

4th QR:
Seeded:
23 Everton
24 Aston Villa

Everton and Villa should get a reasonably winnable tie.

Unseeded:
25 Hearts (may be seeded)

Have a good chance if getting favourable draw - moreso if seeded.


Summary:
Expect to see Arsenal and possibly Celtic in main draw for CL Group Stages with 4 other British teams.

Expect to see Everton, Villa and perhaps Hearts (and a sporting chance for Fulham and Aberdeen) in the Group Stages of Europa. Motherwell have been given a chance with a decent draw to proceed a few rounds and you never know if Falkirk get lucky too in the 3rd Round draw they both might make the 4th Rd!!