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TheMusic
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Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2018 2:49 pm
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Hi All,
Can anyone help in identifying the players in these photos please?
Thank you very much in advance
1) Sunderland immediately after winning the 1937 FA Cup at Wembley (I think).
2) Yugoslavia vs England (in Belgrade?) in 1939.
3) A Barcelona player from the 1970s?
4) England v Rest of Europe at Highbury in 1938.
5) Tottenham winning the Costa Del Sol Tournament in Spain in 1965?
6) Team unknown!
7) England away, date unknown
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Supermono13
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Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2018 3:35 pm
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Photo 2:
Ðorde Vujadinovic and Eddie Hapgood |
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kenners46
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Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2018 3:38 pm
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Photo 3 is manchester United away kit, one of the Greenhoff brothers ? |
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Flaming Pie
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Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2018 3:42 pm
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Photo 7 looks like Ted Sagar in goal.Sagar only won four England caps 1935 36 season.Probably away game v either Austria or Belgium? |
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Pete’s Picture Palace Forum Moderator
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Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2018 4:05 pm
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1. Sunderland 1937, Raich Carter being carried.
3. Definitely Jimmy Greenhoff, Man Utd 1977-78 away kit.
7. could be England in Berlin 14th May 1938, the infamous "salute" game.
I've had photos from that game before, think it's Eddie Hapgood nearest the camera. Tom Whittaker is down the far end in his suit, Cliff Bastin is 5th left with the parting. Although 5th right could be Wilf Copping and he didn't play in the Berlin game, but he played in both games mentioned by Pie above. |
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Flaming Pie
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Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2018 4:51 pm
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Austria 2 v England 1 ..6th May 1936. George Camsell scored for England.The same photo is in one of the on line write- ups Pete.. |
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Pete’s Picture Palace Forum Moderator
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Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2018 4:58 pm
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7. Yes, you are right. Copping was the one that gave it away, and there's no way it would be Belgium in that stadium. |
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Flaming Pie
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Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2018 5:08 pm
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Wilf Copping, the original hard man of football.Didn't he take on the ltalians single - handed in the 1930s 'Battle Of Highbury' encounter. He looks a right hardcase! |
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Karb
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The Sunderland players are Charlie Thomson (far left), Len Duns to Carter's left, Raich Carter with the trophy, Sandy McNab to Carter's right, Eddie Burbanks obscured behind McNab and Bert Johnston far right |
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TheMusic
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Rocky
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Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2018 11:17 pm
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Flaming Pie
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Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2018 11:43 pm
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Pretty certain Five and ln can name all of these Spurs players.Far right photo last man is Alan Gilzean , standing next to him is Dave Mackay. Jimmy Robertson and Phil Beal look to be there. Jimmy Greaves could be there somewhere.Could be a few fringe players in the line-up, such as Keith Weller . A team photo from 1965 will probably reveal all.There's Jimmy ( with a great sun tan) back row 4th from the right.Pat Jennings with short hair is the tall goalie at the back. |
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Rocky
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Five and In
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Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2018 9:38 am
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Flaming Pie wrote: |
Pretty certain Five and ln can name all of these Spurs players.. |
Thanks for the vote of confidence FP
I'm really struggling with this as the clarity of the photo disappears when I enlarge it to the extent that I would struggle to recognise myself!
My best guess is:
Back row left to right - Dave Mackay, Cliff Jones, 3, 4, Bill Brown, Alan Mullery, 7, Cyril Knowles, Maurice Norman, Alan Gilzean.
Two at the front are Phil Beal and maybe Derek Possee.
The three I can't see clearly 3, 4 & 7 will be from Laurie Brown, Frank Saul, Jimmy Robertson, Eddie Clayton and Greavsie which means two of the team are not in the photo at all.
Hope this helps TheMusic.....any chance of posting the team one on it's own so it's a little clearer? |
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Flaming Pie
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Photo 6 That cross on the shirt, could it be a Celtic cross for S Ireland? .Portugal also had a cross on their shirt .lf it is an international team, could well be pre - war Portugal? |
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TheMusic
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Five and In
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Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2018 6:18 pm
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Thanks TheMusic
Using numbers from my previous post.
No 2 is not Cliff Jones and I can't get him.
4 is Eddie Clayton, I think and obviously 7 is Greavsie.
Front right is not Possee, I think it's Jimmy Robertson.
Also, the more I look at the keeper, I think it's Pat and not Bill Brown, but Brown played in the games, so I'm confused.
Just leaves 2 & 3 with no idea. |
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Flaming Pie
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Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2018 6:20 pm
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Got my Mackay wrong, as Five said ,,he is first on the left.Ron Henry third from left Alan Mullery next to Greavsie.The goalie looks like Jennings.Great to see Jimmy Greaves looking so happy.What a goalscorer! Some great sun tans going on there! |
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Pete’s Picture Palace Forum Moderator
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Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2018 6:23 pm
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This is the Spurs line-up for the 1965 cup.
Bill Brown, Norman, Knowles, Mullery, L. Brown, Mackay (c), Possee, Clayton (Saul), Gilzean, Greaves, Robertson (Beal)
And this is the 66 line-up.
Jennings, Kinnear, Henry, Mackay, Knowles, Mullery, Venables, Beal, Robertson (Weller), Greaves, Gilzean
Disagree re Bill Brown, and I can't see Venables so should be 1965 version. |
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