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littlewiggy
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Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 6:39 pm
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I have this match ticket for Newport County v Wien (Austria Vienna) from April 1954 - but the game was never played so no programme was produced ...
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Interesting, as you see from above, they ended up playing Hearts that day!
Thanks to everyone for the continued info. |
Ah, I didn't realise that Tynie, I'd always wondered why the game was never played.
Wien obviously got a better offer mate!
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Tynie Topics
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Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 6:41 pm
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littlewiggy wrote: |
Tynie Topics wrote: |
littlewiggy wrote: |
I have this match ticket for Newport County v Wien (Austria Vienna) from April 1954 - but the game was never played so no programme was produced ...
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Interesting, as you see from above, they ended up playing Hearts that day!
Thanks to everyone for the continued info. |
Ah, I didn't realise that Tynie, I'd always wondered why the game was never played.
Wien obviously got a better offer mate!
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Thinking about it, it might not have been Admira, could have been FC Wien. I don't get the impression from the Hearts programme that the fixture was short notice (and they had faced Kilmarnock a few days earlier) _________________ https://www.flickr.com/photos/footballprogrammes/albums |
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Rocky
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Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 11:37 pm
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Here’s are a few scores and additions gleaned from some newspaper archives. Some reports recognise the Austrians as Admira Vienna rather than Wien. A couple of programmes have also been identified.
18/11/53 Plymouth v Admira Wien 2-4. Programme issued, on eBay presently.
19/11/53 Luton v Admira Vienna 4-2
An addition to the list – 25/11/53 Man City v Admira Wien 3-2
An addition to the list – 30/11/53 Bury v Admira Vienna 3-1
01/12/53 Notts County v Admira Wien 3-5 att 12,670. Programme issued, on eBay presently.
I’ve seen a newspaper article which previews the Stirling Albion v Admira Wien game which was due to be played 17/04/54. However, Stirling played at East Fife on that date. The Rothes / Elgin X1 fixture was scheduled for 19/04/54.
An addition to the list - 19.05.54 Derry City v Admira Wien 2-4
The indicated 09/11/55 Kilmarnock v Admira game was actually 09/11/54. Kilmarnock lost 1-6
15/11/54 Leeds v Admira Wien 3-1 att 8,000 _________________ www.middlesbroughfccollection.co.uk
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Tynie Topics
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Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 11:55 pm
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Rocky wrote: |
Here’s are a few scores and additions gleaned from some newspaper archives. Some reports recognise the Austrians as Admira Vienna rather than Wien. A couple of programmes have also been identified.
18/11/53 Plymouth v Admira Wien 2-4. Programme issued, on eBay presently.
19/11/53 Luton v Admira Vienna 4-2
An addition to the list – 25/11/53 Man City v Admira Wien 3-2
An addition to the list – 30/11/53 Bury v Admira Vienna 3-1
01/12/53 Notts County v Admira Wien 3-5 att 12,670. Programme issued, on eBay presently.
I’ve seen a newspaper article which previews the Stirling Albion v Admira Wien game which was due to be played 17/04/54. However, Stirling played at East Fife on that date. The Rothes / Elgin X1 fixture was scheduled for 19/04/54.
An addition to the list - 19.05.54 Derry City v Admira Wien 2-4
The indicated 09/11/55 Kilmarnock v Admira game was actually 09/11/54. Kilmarnock lost 1-6
15/11/54 Leeds v Admira Wien 3-1 att 8,000 |
Super stuff Rocky, much appreciated!
The Stirling game did take place (although obviously not on the original date) as there is a programme, and the game is mentioned on their website. _________________ https://www.flickr.com/photos/footballprogrammes/albums |
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hulldon
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Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 11:46 am
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Tynie!
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Tynie Topics
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Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 12:38 pm
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hulldon wrote: |
Tynie!
pm sent, not related to this topic ... |
Got it, replied
Update on matches so far.....
18/11/53 Plymouth W4-2 P
19/11/53 Luton Town L2-4 P
23/11/53 Hull City W2-1 P
25/11/53 Man City L2-3
30/11/53 Bury L1-3
01/12/53 Notts County W 5-3 12,670 P
07/04/54 Kilmarnock L0-5 12,540 ?
12/04/54 Hearts W2-0 10,000 P
15/04/54 Aberdeen Reserves W2-1 ?
17/09/54 Stirling Albion L1-5 6,000 P
19/04/54 Rothes/Elgin XI @ Elgin L2-3 P
21/04/54 St.Johnstone W2-1 4,600 ?
22/04/54 Inverness Select L1-2 ?
A proposed match against a combine Forfarshire XI (Brechin, Forfar, Montrose and Arbroath) was scuppered because Admira wanted a £500 guarantee
19/05/54 Derry City W4-2
21/05/54 Bohemians Select P
23/05/54 Waterford P
09/11/54 Kilmarnock W6-1
10/11/54 Newcastle Utd L1-3 18,834 P
15/11/54 Leeds United L 1-3 8,000 P _________________ https://www.flickr.com/photos/footballprogrammes/albums
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garyspain
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garyspain
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Bohemians programme above and Waterford posted earlier.
The Bohs programme is reasonably common and does turn up. The Waterford one is very scarce. I wasn't aware of the Derry City game until I read it here. I'm not aware of a programme. |
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pafcprogs
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Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 11:58 am
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The Plymouth programme is pretty easy to come by...
I have at least one probably two copies... _________________ Currently disposing of my collection so please email any wants lists to [email protected].
Most Plymouth post 1959 but plenty of others including reserves, friendlies, Cup Finals Internationals and Club issues, handbooks and other sports. |
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stfc831968
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Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 7:17 pm
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Swindon played SK Admira Wien on 10 February 1954.
Swindon won 3-2 at the County Ground in front of a crowd of 6,813. Scorers for Swindon were Lambert, Sampson and Bull for Sk Admira Wien Josef Hamerl and Karl Burgstaller.
And i've never seen a programme so if anyone is aware of one please let me know. |
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Tynie Topics
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Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 9:07 pm
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stfc831968 wrote: |
Swindon played SK Admira Wien on 10 February 1954.
Swindon won 3-2 at the County Ground in front of a crowd of 6,813. Scorers for Swindon were Lambert, Sampson and Bull for Sk Admira Wien Josef Hamerl and Karl Burgstaller.
And i've never seen a programme so if anyone is aware of one please let me know. |
Many thanks, it seems they had 4 tours to the UK in the space of 12 months! and I suspect there's more games from Feb 1954 to be found. _________________ https://www.flickr.com/photos/footballprogrammes/albums |
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Rocky
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Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 11:47 pm
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I’m not too sure about the Swindon v Admira Wien game. The following link is off an excellent Swindon stats website and it does state that they played SK Admira Wien.
http://www.swindon-town-fc.co......1954995000
However, looking at the SK Admira Wien player’s names in that link, some seem to match those who played for FC Vienna in the game v Crystal Palace (see Pete’s image earlier in the thread). FC Vienna were also known as FC Wien. Looking through newspaper archives of the era, the Swindon game is advertised as v FC Wien as is the result.
It appears that FC Wien did tour England during February 1954 as some detective work has highlighted the following games:
v Watford 8/2/54, lost 0-1
probably v Swindon 10/2/54, lost 2-3
probably v Weymouth 16/2/54, drew 1-1
v Exeter 17/2/54, drew 0-0
v Rotherham United 20/2/54, lost 0-4
v Crystal Palace 23/2/54, lost 3-4
In conclusion, I’d say FC Wien toured in February ‘54 rather than Admira Wien. _________________ www.middlesbroughfccollection.co.uk
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stfc831968
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Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 11:50 pm
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That's some excellent research, thanks for that. I'm in touch with the person who runs that Swindon site so i'll let them know. |
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