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Go Ahead Eagles (Deventer) v Celtic - 29/09/1965 - ECWC

 
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Driver8



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 26, 2017 12:11 pm 
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I know this programme is quite rare and so there may not be many viewers who possess a copy.

If you do have a copy I am looking for the name of the referee and linesmen that are listed in the programme.

Any information would be much appreciated.

Many thanks.
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Driver8



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2018 11:48 pm 
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Just reviving this post to see if anyone can help with my query.

Kind regards

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williebhoy



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 12:26 am 
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M Zuimmers from Luxembourg was the referee
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Driver8



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 1:18 pm 
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Thanks for your reply williebhoy confirming the match programme records the referee as Zuimmer.
The reason for my enquiry is that I have seen two different referees recorded as officiating this match:
Marcel ZEIMES (spellings of Zuimmer, Zuimer or Zeimer are incorrect) and Antoine QUEUDEVILLE (spelling of Quendeville is incorrect)

Scottish newspapers Daily Record, Scottish Daily Mail (post match) and Glasgow Herald (pre and post match) have ZEIMES.

Glasgow Herald (pre match):
https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=GGgVawPscysC&dat=19650929&printsec=frontpage&hl=en - Page 6, column 2.
Glasgow Herald (post match):
https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=GGgVawPscysC&dat=19650930&printsec=frontpage&hl=en - Page 11, column 8.

Dutch newspapers De Telegraaf (pre match), Leidse Courant (post match) and De Volkskrant (pre match) also have ZEIMES.

De Telegraaf (pre match):
https://www.delpher.nl/nl/kranten/view?coll=ddd&query=&cql%5B%5D=%28date+_gte_+%2229-09-1965%22%29&cql%5B%5D=%28date+_lte_+%2230-09-1965%22%29&redirect=true&page=1&maxperpage=50&resultscoll=dddtitel&identifier=ddd%3A110588878%3Ampeg21%3Ap021 – Page 21, column 3.

Leidse Courant (post match):
http://leiden.courant.nu/issue/LLC/1965-09-30/edition/0/page/9?query= - page 9, column 1.

De Volkskrant (pre match)
https://www.delpher.nl/nl/kranten/view?query=&page=1&maxperpage=50&cql%5B%5D=%28date+_gte_+%2229-09-1965%22%29&cql%5B%5D=%28date+_lte_+%2230-09-1965%22%29&coll=ddd&redirect=true&resultscoll=dddtitel&identifier=ABCDDD%3A010878114%3Ampeg21%3Ap019 - Page 19, column 4.

HOWEVER,

UEFA, The IFFHS and the Dutch newspaper De Telegraaf (post match) record the referee as QUEUDEVILLE.

De Telegraff (post match):
https://www.delpher.nl/nl/kranten/view?query=&page=1&maxperpage=50&cql%5B%5D=%28date+_gte_+%2229-09-1965%22%29&cql%5B%5D=%28date+_lte_+%2230-09-1965%22%29&coll=ddd&redirect=true&resultscoll=dddtitel&identifier=ddd%3A110588879%3Ampeg21%3Ap021 - Page 21, column 2.


Given that UEFA’s official record together with the De Telegraff (post match) report both have QUEUDEVILLE I am inclined to believe the originally appointed ZEIMES was replaced prior to kick-off.
But can anybody / Celtic statisticians confirm / provide a source that this was the case.

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goodison



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 1:54 pm 
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Couple of match reports here, neither mention a change of referee, but given the first report says the dutch newsmen couldn't identify the Celtic players that's maybe not surprising.

http://www.thecelticwiki.com/p.....CWC+1st+Rd
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williebhoy



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 9:35 pm 
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The link for the game on the Celtic wiki page also has a link for book in Dutch wholly on this fixture. I'm sure if you can contact the author he will be able to supply all the relevant info required.
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