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Fulham mad
Joined: 21 Mar 2016 Posts: 1
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Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2016 9:28 pm
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Has sportsprogrammes ceased to trade,it's ages since the last catalogue and when I emailed it failed. |
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se20blue
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Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2016 10:03 pm
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Sports Programmes offers catalogue no 2 2016 had a closing date of 9th March,
Roy Camels has recently celebrated his 75th birthday and is not retiring yet, but taking it a bit slower therefore the issuing of catalogues will take longer.
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slightfold
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Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2016 10:18 pm
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Recently had my items from the last (March) offers list. He is ably assisted by his missus, Joy. There's nothing now with fixed prices, all offers only, usually about 6500 items each time. |
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goonerboy
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Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2016 11:26 pm
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Roy and Joy are still operating but will be producing less catalogues per year now on as they are slowing down a bit. The next catalogue will be in May. |
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roughyedz
Joined: 16 Jul 2010 Posts: 608 Location: Oldham
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Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 12:00 am
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Over the years ive bought dozens of itmes off Roy and Joy , and very nice she has been in our e-mail excvhanges over the years , ( I even got an automatic suggestiuon on Facebook i might want to be her friend ) nobody canb go on for ever and it must be a time consuming thing to put together , and vert tireing indeed . Obviously i imagine he has no family to pass the bussiness on to ???? |
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Jim LFC
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Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 12:05 am
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Nice to see Roy and Sports Programmes are still going after all this time.
I seem to remember they were originally based in Birmingham from around 1974 onwards, can anyone verify?! |
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Jim LFC
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Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 12:14 am
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Pete’s Picture Palace Forum Moderator
Joined: 19 Feb 2013 Posts: 4215 Location: Wallington Surrey
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Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 12:27 am
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roughyedz wrote: |
Over the years ive bought dozens of itmes off Roy and Joy , and very nice she has been in our e-mail excvhanges over the years , ( I even got an automatic suggestiuon on Facebook i might want to be her friend ) nobody canb go on for ever and it must be a time consuming thing to put together , and vert tireing indeed . Obviously i imagine he has no family to pass the bussiness on to ???? |
They have a son, Danny, who set up on his own about 10 years ago and ran a smaller version of Roy's catalogue. But that closed after 3 or 4 years and I don't know what Danny's doing now.
As for their catalogue I've had one for about 15 years, spent thousands on firstly Palace programmes and for the last 10 years press photos by the boat-load. And now I've been struck off their mailing list as I was too demanding on photo copies, even though I said I'd go without in future. So, sadly, it's a goodnight from me, Roy. |
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derby1884 Forum Moderator
Joined: 05 Aug 2012 Posts: 3527 Location: the very western edge of Aberdeen
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Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 12:36 am
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Jim LFC wrote: |
Nice to see Roy and Sports Programmes are still going after all this time.
I seem to remember they were originally based in Birmingham from around 1974 onwards, can anyone verify?! |
Handsworth, wasn't it?
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Posh1959
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Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 6:22 am
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It was Coventry, West Midland Programme Club was at Handsworth |
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auctioneer
Joined: 25 Jan 2015 Posts: 72
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Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 7:01 am
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further info from a local guy
sports programmes was started by Gordon Andrews in digbeth in Birmingham
he was joined by roy camels and then sold to him and tony Stanton before moving to Coventry
west midlands programme shop was in handsworth and ran by john garrad and tonymatthews
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Tynie Topics
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Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 9:46 am
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Offers lists are very much the old school way of conduction business these days, I never touch them. You are basically buying blind and all you have to go on is a “vslcr” or such like with regards to condition and as Pete alludes to above, the modern world demands a lot more than that these days if you are shelling out considerable amounts of cash. Add to the fact that it is blind bidding and it’s a dying concept (just look at the continual shrinking of line adverts in PM).
People are used to seeing pictures of items on ebay, or via Saleroom, I personally want to see what it is I’m potentially bidding on beforehand (Sportingold are bad at not providing pics on Saleroom of their lots).
If it’s an item worth a fiver then fair enough, you go with it, but if it’s an item demanding a bid of £50+ I want to see it. One mans slight crease is another mans heavy fold.
It surprises me that dealers don’t make more use of photo hosting sites such as Flikr to at least show their more expensive items, whether that be straight sales or offers. _________________ https://www.flickr.com/photos/footballprogrammes/albums |
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PompeyPhil
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bisphamseasider
Joined: 02 Jun 2009 Posts: 2732 Location: Blackpool
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Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 11:53 am
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I also dislike the 'blind' bidding process and I hate to think of the amount of additional money I have spent over the years on Sports Offers and other similar sellers by bidding on the very high side to try and secure sought after programmes.
I am a little surprised that Sports Programmes are still trading in this outdated way and it would be interesting to know how many bids are actually received on the 6,000 plus items on a particluar catalogue.
Having said that I have acquired some gems from them over the years and have always received an excellent service.
And I still can't resist scrutinising the catalogue although nowadays it would have to be something really special to bid blind. |
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manchesterunitedman1
Joined: 17 Jan 2010 Posts: 3330 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 1:03 pm
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auctioneer wrote: |
further info from a local guy
sports programmes was started by Gordon Andrews in digbeth in Birmingham
he was joined by roy camels and then sold to him and tony Stanton before moving to Coventry
west midlands programme shop was in handsworth and ran by john garrad and tonymatthews
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all 100% accurate.
In the 1970's when i was in Birmingham i would go into their place Digbeth and walk around the room, tables laid out with VICTORIAN CUP FINALS on! and other pre-war bits all selling for what is now considered pence!. Tony sitting like the headmaster at the top of the table and looking bored rigid, never got too excited unless you were spending a massive £20!. I also recall when they moved to Coventry where Tony lived with the few metal shelves creaking under the weight-happy days for sure.
I once won an auction for a 1908 Charity Shield and paid £300-i was delighted and also shocked that my crackpot offer was accepted as i had to scrape up the brass to pay for it. I remember speaking to Roy and he said to me "One day it will be worth a nice few quid" he was not wrong about that!.
I have not traded with Sports programmes since 2000 only because now the world has changed and i need to see what i am buying and i get the offers but i just lose patience, it was all those years ago such a thrill to get the catalogue and then you could not get thru on the phone for ages.
Spent many an afternoon at Roy's place in front of the fire whilst he showed me stuff i could only marvel at.
Good Luck to Roy a genuine gentleman and Joy maybe they need to do their own live auction-they probably have the stock for it for sure. _________________ Leslie Millman
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