Frank Barson and Tommy Ball

[derby1884]

Two historical articles in The Guardian which make a pleasant change from the usual Premiership preening.

Frank Barson

http://www.theguardian.com/foo.....ter-united

Tommy Ball (the only English professional footballer to be murdered)

http://www.theguardian.com/spo.....life-death
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[BAZZABAGGIES]

I have visited Tommy Balls grave also Archie Hunter.

[manchesterunitedman1]

Barson was a blacksmith by trade and the likes of Roy Keane would have hid away if he came looking for him both on a football pitch or otherwise.
Barson was a nutter for sure and on top of all his bans and carrying on he laid out cold when the ref was not looking a Manchester City player in the FA Cup Semi FInal at Sheffield UNited in 1925-1926. City still won the tie and went to Wembley and BArson was reported after the game and was banned the following season for so many matches. Roy Keane hard case Frank Barson head case!

[martino]

Who is that guy third from left in the back row in the United 22/23 photo? He looks like a fan who has crept into the photo for a bet.



http://i.guim.co.uk/static/w-6.....0x372.jpeg

[hydemaine]

Karl Powers great granddaddy ?

[manchesterunitedman1]

martino wrote:

Who is that guy third from left in the back row in the United 22/23 photo? He looks like a fan who has crept into the photo for a bet. http://i.guim.co.uk/static/w-6.....0x372.jpeg

Mr. Bacon who was Manchester United's Trainor since the early 1900's

[BAZZABAGGIES]

He was a Peaky Blinder related to Ray.

[littlewiggy]

Absolutely loved reading those, both were truly fascinating.
Thanks for posting them Steve.

"Dirty Barson" (lol) sounded a fearsome character indeed.
Certainly puts todays "hard men" into perspective, as Leslie rightly pointed out.

Must admit, this bit in that story had me roaring with laughter ...


"A year previously South Shields’ Cyril Hunter, in a Second Division match against Middlesbrough, had put in a display of such consistent brutality that by the end, according to the local paper, “the Middlesbrough dressing room was like a field ambulance station”.

[markb9060]

Here is a tribute to the great man himself in the form of a card presented with 'Boy`s Magazine' in the 1920`s. I do believe Leslie owns one as well.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/markb9060/sets/72157635124481728/

[manchesterunitedman1]

markb9060 wrote:

Here is a tribute to the great man himself in the form of a card presented with 'Boy`s Magazine' in the 1920`s. I do believe Leslie owns one as well. https://www.flickr.com/photos/markb9060/sets/72157635124481728/

yes i have been fortunate to obtain one of those as well.

The match in which he floored the City player he was the captain of United-a fine example he set for sure, inside the official programme was an extra sheet of paper that sometimes is long gone, this was a nice touch showing Barson of United and his City countperpart, i think it was Cowan that he walloped not sure.

anyway this is that piece of paper
https://flic.kr/p/6BjJZM

Back amongst the collection now and looking forward to the new Manchester Fair so for anyone who knows me please come over and say hello! and if you have anything to sell or trade even better!


Wishing everyone on the Forum a Happy and peacefull Christmas and a prosperous New Year

[Pete’s Picture Palace]

Does anyone know what Mr Barson did in WW1? I bet he was a bundle of laughs in the trenches. Mind you, I'm glad he was on our side!

[BAZZABAGGIES]

MEDAL UP FOR AUCTION.

http://www.thestar.co.uk/what-.....e-1-344925

This is a good read on Frank Barson.

http://wmpickford.blogspot.co......in-of.html

[Goonerak]

"A few games into it, in September 1928, during a 6-2 home defeat against Fulham, he was adjudged to have kicked Jimmy Temple and was sent off. He refused, arguing his case with the referee for a while before reluctantly trudging from the field."

The referee had a slightly different perspective on that incident.

[littlewiggy]

Lol, Frank sounded a bit of a sod didn't he.